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Old September 30th, 2017, 08:21 PM #1
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First batch of reloads with Lee press at the range today

I went to the range today with the 200 rounds of 9mm that I loaded with my recently purchased used Lee Turret Press (thank you BigDaddy). Here's how they were loaded (recipe?).

Berry's 115gr Plated Bullet
VhitaVuori 3n37 powder 5.7gr
CCI small pistol primer
Winchester once fired brass (fired by me as factory ammo)
OAL 1.162

Here's how I loaded them so you have the whole story.

The press came with a Lee Pro Auto-Disk Powder measure, it also came with Lee Primer Feeder but I didn't use that as I had already deprimed the cases with my Lee Hand press and primed them with my Lee Auto Prime Hand Priming Tool. I used the turret press and my Lee Carbide Pistol Die Set to resize the cases, flare the mouth, drop the powder, seat the bullet and using the separate Factory Crimp Die to crimp the cases.

I did 5 test drops and it dropped 5.7gr or 5.8gr consistently during the test using the .53 hole in the powder drop, checked it a few times while reloading also. As I finished each round I dropped them in a Lyman Case Gauge and they all seemed to drop in flush.

At the range today, I had 3 failures to fire, several failure to eject and most of the rounds that ejected, ejected directly back at me. The FTFs didn't even have a dimple in the primer. One of the FTFs was a little difficult to rack the slide to eject it.

Obviously I'm not very experienced with reloading so I'm wondering what caused the above problems? Thanks in advance for your wise and sage advice!!

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Crimping was most likely the problem. What kind of crimp?
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Agree, sounds like possibly a crimp or sizing issue. The pistol is possibly not going into battery all of the way or very tightly when it does fire.

Update - ok, I re-read your post and see that you did use the Lyman Case gauge. It should drop in freely with a solid thunk - is that the case?
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Old September 30th, 2017, 09:03 PM #4
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I have never crimped 9MM. The 9MM head spaces on the shell itself.
If the crimp is too deep the case will go too far forward and the firing pin may not make contact.
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Yes, that is possible but it would have to be a LOT of crimp. 9mm should have a light taper crimp. This is done with some seating dies or a separate taper crimp die.
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It is also possible that you are using brass that was fired in a Glock or other pistol without a fully supported chamber. This is known as the "Glock Bulge" in brass and you may need to use a small base sizing die or the Lee Bulge Buster die on your brass. If it was real bad then it shoudn't have gone into your Lyman case gauge easily. You can tell if your brass was from a Glock since it leaves a distinctive pattern on the primer.

Can you please attach photos of the loaded rounds that FTF and tell us what you are shooting them in?

Here are photos of a Glock-fired primer and Glock Bulged cases after reloading vs normal cases.

Here is the Lee Bulge Buster to "fix" the brass I would personally recommend that you just toss the brass that is giving you issues since 9mm Luger brass is pretty cheap.

Also, if you do this - apparently, you need the 9mm Makarov Crimp also. Here is a video explaining this. Not sure that I would go this route though.
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I don't own a Glock but some years ago I recall that Glock advised not to use reloads as it would void any warranty.
Does anyone know it their manual states such?
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I don't own a Glock but some years ago I recall that Glock advised not to use reloads as it would void any warranty.
Does anyone know it their manual states such?
I'm not sure about the warranty - most all gun makers say to use factory ammo and probably wouldn't honor a warranty claim CAUSED by non standard loads. I'm not sure how they would tell unless the damage was caused by an out of spec reload.

There is a real reason not to use lead bullets (unplated) though. The polygonal rifling in the Glock doesn't like lead - collects in the barrel. If you want to shoot lead in a good then buy an aftermarket barrel for it like Timberwolf.

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I reload for all of my Glocks and have never had an issue.
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Crimping was most likely the problem. What kind of crimp?
It was done with the Lee Factory Crimp die that came with the 9mm die set that I purchased. I figured since it was a 9mm die set that it would do the right kind of crimp. I know the bullet has no cannelure so it should be a taper crimp and not a roll crimp, I think are the right terms.
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