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miles71 · Aug 15, 2016

http://mantisx.com/

Anyone know anything about this? Got an email today about it, seems like it would be a good thing for teaching and practice.

TD

Brooklyn · Aug 16, 2016

Interesting...

Let's hope we get some reviews on YouTube..

j_h_smith · Aug 16, 2016

I think it will tell you if you have problems with fundamentals, but who shoots exactly the same as someone else. I don't know how it's going to take into consideration everyone's own technique. Color me skeptical.

3rdRcn · Aug 20, 2016

Meeting with the sales rep Monday, will post up what I think of it.

3rdRcn · Aug 23, 2016

I like it! Not only for the development of my own trigger control etc, but for students as well. The software is very interesting and for the price I figured I would give it a go.

campns · Aug 23, 2016

I couldn't connect with a time to meet with the rep, but I have handled one it's on my list of things to get for training. it's promising technology

Truthlesshero81 · Aug 23, 2016

I have one, I like it. It really forces you concentrate on what you're doing, fundamentals wise

Minuteman · Aug 23, 2016

3rdRcn said:
I like it! Not only for the development of my own trigger control etc, but for students as well. The software is very interesting and for the price I figured I would give it a go.

I understand the rep is still making rounds in Maryland.

I'm meeting them to demo it today.

I will put it through it's paces.

TylerFirearms · Aug 23, 2016

We played with one today and signed up as a stocking dealer. We have 10 in the store now but can order as many as we need. Price is $149.99 each and you can download the apps on the Android Play Store or Apple App Store.

Minuteman · Aug 23, 2016

Just got home from the demo and shooting it, and hanging out for another hour with the developer. He gave me a lot more insight and answered my dozens of questions. It's not perfect, but has a lot of value, especially in the next version of the app that is under development, which I got to try out. I bought one and will test it extensively. Worth it if you are an instructor, very good for beginner shooters or occasional shooters.

Mark75H · Aug 23, 2016

Looks like an excellent concept. Love to test drive one before putting out 1½ though

TylerFirearms · Aug 23, 2016

Mark75H said:
Looks like an excellent concept. Love to test drive one before putting out 1½ though

Stop by the store. We can demo one for you.

Minuteman · Aug 24, 2016

TylerFirearms said:
Stop by the store. We can demo one for you.

Yep, recommend seeing it in person. TylerFirearms seems to be the place to do that.

Can use it for dry fire or even airsoft. I tested it live fire only. Today I will test it dry fire.

TylerFirearms · Aug 24, 2016

We tested dry fire and with a CO2 pellet gun because we figured live fire would work the best. We wanted to see what most people would use it for.

The pellet gun worked perfectly and dry fire really needs something with a hammer to create vibrations. Unlike most other training aids, it uses motion and vibrations, not sound. It failed with a SIRT pistol, but Derek said that is in the works. They just have to adjust the sensitivity.

It works in a horizontal position only at the moment. The math needed to mount it 90 degrees to the ground is massive, and having it on a 45 degree rail, on an AR for example, will be extremely complicated... LOL. If you mount it on the bottom rail, it will work fine. It can be mounted facing forward or backward depending on your gun, you just tell the device it's backwards. An SR22 had to be mounted backwards because the rail is too small. It can also be set for left or right handed shooters.

The construction is good and battery life is 8 hours. It charges via included USB cable and comes with one page of instructions and a hard Pelican case.

Overall, we're impressed with the technology and it is pretty accurate. It works on the mechanics of the gun and not shot placement, like most other training systems. It even has help in the app that gives you the most likely cause of what mistakes you might be making. The history feature is good to show you how you shoot over time. For example, you can tell how you shoot after 4 hours at the range, or be able to see if you shoot different indoors vs outdoors.

As with any product we sell, if we don't like it, we won't sell it. As they adjust the algorithms over time, I can see the MantisX Training System becoming an invaluable tool for beginners and experts alike to show you what you're doing while shooting.

Stop by the store and we'll be more than happy to demo one for you.

Brooklyn · Aug 28, 2016

Great... Now something else to buy..

I will drop in I am sure

TylerFirearms · Aug 28, 2016

We have them at the gun show in Dundalk if you want to come by and take a look.

Mark75H · Aug 28, 2016

TylerFirearms said:
We have them at the gun show in Dundalk if you want to come by and take a look.

Thanks for letting me handle one at the show. Impressively small and light. I'll try to stop by the shop and test run one on an afternoon I am in the neighborhood.

TylerFirearms · Aug 28, 2016

Mark75H said:
Thanks for letting me handle one at the show. Impressively small and light. I'll try to stop by the shop and test run one on an afternoon I am in the neighborhood.

It was my pleasure. We have plenty of guns to dry fire for a live demo for you.

Brooklyn · Aug 29, 2016

TylerFirearms said:
We have them at the gun show in Dundalk if you want to come by and take a look.

My time is not my own this weekend.. or I would have been there...

Glad the show went well...

Melnic · Dec 6, 2016

I picked up one of these after reading in another thread. If I had read that they were available locally, would have done so. I missed this thread sorry.
G17 gen 3.
fits perfectly and I did not notice much if any weight difference.
Worked fine in dry fire mode to try it out.
I think the app will improve but right now, you can't analyze things after your session. other than the bar graph and there's a pie chart telling you some stuff.
But you can't see the individual shots with the green/yellow/red lines.
When you look at history, what you can review is limited.
I'm sure they will add that and hopefully ability to name a session so you can put people's names to it and a date.

This seems to be for your trigger/hand and one should note that it won't correct sight picture mistakes.
However, I take new shooters to the range quite often and since I'm not a trainer trying to tell them what they are doing wrong is difficult.
maybe this will be helpful. I would expect it to be. If they are scoring high here but shooting way off, I should know its their sight picture or not.
Of course, most the people I take seem to hit 12" low and left @ 25ft.

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