DC carry confrontations

trickg · Jul 28, 2014

Do you know what would be cool? An organized firearm carry march, right there in the middle of the DC Mall. I'd go.

swinokur · Jul 28, 2014

davsco said:
so reading Chief Lanier's memo, is it going to be SOP to stop everyone carrying and check their "papers," or perhaps (hopefully) she just means if they were already stopped for a crime or the like?

More than one court says an LEO needs RAS or PC to conduct a Terry stop. (Investigative stop)The mere act of wanting to check permits is not legal according to those opinions.

Additionally, since no one could carry until last saturday, I can't find info on whether you are obligated to inform LE your are carrying. If asked, of course tell the truth. I'd probably do it as a courtesy however. Respect and consideration works both ways. Handgunlaw simply says NA

IANAL.

DoubleTap007 · Jul 28, 2014

This is truly amazing. I wish that Maryland would get a ****ing grip on reality and the 2nd amendment.

All they really have to do in MD is drop good and substantial, and let people carry.

Someone should make a funny, saying something like, DC Allows Gun Carry - No death's in X days.

occbrian · Jul 28, 2014

#HERO

just hope a stay isn't issued while you are still in DC. I'd get going while the going is good.

swinokur · Jul 28, 2014

yeah

#bringbackourhereoes

:lol2:

ryan_j · Jul 28, 2014

Confrontation? LOL! I guess that IS the purpose of carrying...

Skins_Brew · Jul 28, 2014

swinokur said:
Yes, but now if DC law allows carry-so does the NPS property. See the CC Reform act of 2009. If it's legal in the jurisdiction, legal on an NPS Unit (their term in the law) except where workers are working like a visitors center or concession area.

Yea, I totally forgot about that!

swinokur · Jul 28, 2014

occbrian said:
#HERO

just hope a stay isn't issued while you are still in DC. I'd get going while the going is good.

That's one of the things Gura said he is worried about because he can't always update his blog in real time.

Let's be careful out there.

GrimReaper · Jul 28, 2014

Still, Police Chief Cathy Lanier issued an order Sunday instructing D.C. police not to arrest District residents carrying registered handguns in public places, a spokeswoman from the Metropolitan Police Department confirmed. Police were also told not to arrest people from other jurisdictions for carrying handguns in public if they are abiding by their home state's laws and are not a convicted felon. But because the government is seeking a stay, police could return to enforcing the ban soon.

Why does your home state laws have any relevance when you are not in your home state???? That cant be right.

If thats the case MD residents cant carry in DC because MD residents cant carry.

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2014/07/28/a-federal-judge-struck-down-d-c-s-ban-on-carrying-handguns-in-public-what-happens-next/

swinokur · Jul 28, 2014

it's poorly worded. It simply means if you are legally allowed to possess a firearm where you live. that's ok. Basically meaning you're not prohibited.

IANAL

pbharvey · Jul 28, 2014

Someone needs to take a picture at Constitution Avenue and 2nd Street, Freedom Plaza, and the Supreme Court.

redeemed.man · Jul 28, 2014

pbharvey said:
Someone needs to take a picture at Constitution Avenue and 2nd Street, Freedom Plaza, and the Supreme Court.

You want to ride down and do it together? :lol2:

Inigoes · Jul 28, 2014

boundlessdyad said:
You want to ride down and do it together?

Where do we meet? :toothless

A group picture in front of the Supreme court would be awesome :party29:

JohnnyE · Jul 28, 2014

Inigoes said:
Where do we meet?

A group picture in front of the Supreme court would be awesome

Wear a suit and tie...we're respectable gun owners! Besides, the pic may end up on the front page of some newspapers.

redeemed.man · Jul 28, 2014

JohnnyE said:
Wear a suit and tie...we're respectable gun owners! Besides, the pic may end up on the front page of some newspapers.

The Supreme Court has its own Police Dept. Probably a better idea to do the carry at 2nd and Constitution idea. That way we won't need the suit for our funeral after being shot by a Federal officer with super limited authority.

sbmike · Jul 28, 2014

Going by the news story on Fox a little while ago, if you are legally licensed to carry a handgun in your own state, it's ok to carry in DC. Not saying that is fact, but that is what was reported.

That being the case for us Marylistaners, it might be prudent to confirm or refute this apparent caveat before you strap on your IWB or OWB and run down to DC particularly since the vast majority of us are not allowed to carry in our own gulag...er... state.

swinokur · Jul 28, 2014

JohnnyE said:
Wear a suit and tie...we're respectable gun owners! Besides, the pic may end up on the front page of some newspapers.

these seem appropriate

swinokur · Jul 28, 2014

sbmike said:
Going by the news story on Fox a little while ago, if you are legally licensed to carry a handgun in your own state, it's ok to carry in DC. Not saying that is fact, but that is what was reported.

That being the case for us Marylistaners, it might be prudent to confirm or refute this apparent caveat before you strap on your IWB or OWB and run down to DC particularly since the vast majority of us are not allowed to carry in our own gulag...er... state.

I don't know who is doing fact checking, but apparently no one in the MSM. The directive simply states if you are legally allowed to possess (not prohibited) you may carry. No permit is required. I'll post the relevant portion of the directive again. See paragraph 3
.

redeemed.man · Jul 28, 2014

swinokur said:
I don't know who is doing fact checking, but apparently no one in the MSM. The directive simply states if you are legally allowed to possess (not prohibited) you may carry. No permit is required. I'll post the relevant portion of the directive again. See paragraph 3
.

MSM fact check? :lol2:

lx1x · Jul 28, 2014

boundlessdyad said:
The Supreme Court has its own Police Dept. Probably a better idea to do the carry at 2nd and Constitution idea. That way we won't need the suit for our funeral after being shot by a Federal officer with super limited authority.

2nd and constitution put ya very close to dc police and not too far from capitol police.. headquarters.. lol

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