Anyone trained with McNamara or Vogel?

J.T · Mar 15, 2017

Looking for primarily pistol training and figured I'd see if anyone had experience with either. I'm aware that they(McNamara/Vogel) are quite different styles and come from much different backgrounds just looking for real world experience with either.

I remember a while back someone posting about a big name trainer they did a class with that they felt was a total waste of money, but I can't recall who or find the thread. Just looking to avoid that scenario.

travistheone · Mar 15, 2017

interested in this one as well. I would doubt that TMACS would be a waste of money.

J.T · Mar 15, 2017

travistheone said:
interested in this one as well. I would doubt that TMACS would be a waste of money.

Agreed

travistheone · Mar 15, 2017

J.T said:
Agreed

I have trained with Army SF guys (as a civilian) and they were excellent teachers. Very movement focused. Were able to distill down to the basics and then bring level of refinement up as high as each student needed.

J.T · Mar 15, 2017

travistheone said:
I have trained with Army SF guys (as a civilian) and they were excellent teachers. Very movement focused. Were able to distill down to the basics and then bring level of refinement up as high as each student needed.

I have as well and agree with your assessment

Chris · Mar 15, 2017

If you are looking for some very serious combat pistol training go to the IP section of the forum. Center Mass Combat Tactics or CMCT are top notch. I have been to a few of their classes all the instructors are real, they have been places and bring that knowledge to the class. My shooting has improved 500% (I was a fair shot to begin with) but more important is my awareness of levels of threats and how to deal with them. From "beginners" to the level 2+, you will learn and improve. Chris

Alphabrew · Mar 15, 2017

I'd be interested in training with Pat Mac, I follow him in IG

Airbornemp · Mar 15, 2017

First question is what are ur goals?

Airbornemp · Mar 15, 2017

I was stationed at fort Bragg from 2003 - 2012. I trained with both Cag and group guys. Couple of them open range well worth the travel http://37psr.com/

BigT5g · Mar 15, 2017

Heading out to train with Vogel next week.

J.T · Mar 15, 2017

Found the post about the member who attended a big name class and wasn't happy
https://www.mdshooters.com/showpost.php?p=4550248&postcount=38

J.T · Mar 15, 2017

Chris said:
If you are looking for some very serious combat pistol training go to the IP section of the forum. Center Mass Combat Tactics or CMCT are top notch. I have been to a few of their classes all the instructors are real, they have been places and bring that knowledge to the class. My shooting has improved 500% (I was a fair shot to begin with) but more important is my awareness of levels of threats and how to deal with them. From "beginners" to the level 2+, you will learn and improve. Chris

Will reach out, especially since they are local. Thanks

Airbornemp said:
First question is what are ur goals?

Proficiency. I'm at what most schools/teachers would call an intermediate to slightly advanced level I'd say. Always looking to get good quality training from all different types of trainers as some seem to really click and help your specific style better than others if that makes sense. Looking to build good technique and skill set for personal protection as well as possibly getting into competition down the road.

Airbornemp said:
I was stationed at fort Bragg from 2003 - 2012. I trained with both Cag and group guys. Couple of them open range well worth the travel http://37psr.com/

Will check out their site. Thanks

BigT5g said:
Heading out to train with Vogel next week.

Please let us know how it is!! I trained with you so I'd definitely like to hear how he helped you as you are fairly experienced already obviously

Airbornemp · Mar 15, 2017

If you go to the one near fort Bragg take advantage of all the military surplus shops

sleepingdino · Mar 15, 2017

J.T said:
Found the post about the member who attended a big name class and wasn't happy

https://www.mdshooters.com/showpost.php?p=4550248&postcount=38

I would probably characterize the experience as not meeting expectations or improving substantially.

I have a scheduled class with Dave Spaulding and possibly an upcoming class with Mike Pannone.

I would love to stay close with CMCT but the schedule is a problem. There are also possibilities in WV but as always, the dates and topics are the problem.

outrider58 · Mar 15, 2017

I do all my training with him...

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