With OnTarget starting to releasing after 7 days now who will be next?

rmiddle · May 10, 2013

And how will the MSP react? What is everyone else's though on this. Agree or not OnTarget is opening a can of worms the MSP was tiring to prevent. Well now the genie is out of the box and can't be put back in.

Thanks
Robert

Mr H · May 10, 2013

Not to be a complete and total killjoy, but what good does speculation on it do?

It really is up to the FFLs, and if they choose not to, so be it.

/killjoy

But, yes... This will be most interesting to watch play out. Should be quite the media circus.

gorgeman · May 10, 2013

might need to go shopping

Kevmo · May 10, 2013

3rd post of what will be another epic thread

Sharpeneddark · May 10, 2013

I'm sure the next few weeks will show that very few, if any, FFLs follow suit. I think others will wait for MSP to react (or not). But if OT starts selling guns by the loads, other FFLs may strongly consider it just to be competitive.

Kevmo · May 10, 2013

Sharpeneddark said:
I'm sure the next few weeks will show that very few, if any, FFLs follow suit. I think others will wait for MSP to react (or not). But if OT starts selling guns by the loads, other FFLs may strongly consider it just to be competitive.

They already do sell guns by the loads

iH8DemLibz · May 10, 2013

RE: Which FFL's will start releasing after 7 days.

My all knowing crystal ball is out for repair. Sorry.

My question is this. If my crystal ball is shot out and can't be repaired, can I build an H-BALL after 10-1 using the all knowing, raw glass I purchased prior to 10-1?

P.S. Is this just more OT predictions or is this fact at this point?

R1125 · May 10, 2013

iH8DemLibz said:
RE: Which FFL's will start releasing after 7 days.

My all knowing crystal ball is out for repair. Sorry.

My question is this. If my crystal ball is shot out and can't be repaired, can I build an H-BALL after 10-1 using the all knowing, raw glass I purchased prior to 10-1?

P.S. Is this just more OT predictions or is this fact at this point?

Check this post out
http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=99026&page=80

cz27jim · May 10, 2013

Even if an FFL decided to start releasing guns after 7 days, that practice would immediately stop as soon as someone posted someplace like, say, on a public forum on the internet :innocent0

, that they were doing it. Because then, every prohibited person looking for a gun would rush to their store knowing that they would get the gun before the disapproved paperwork came back.

rmiddle · May 10, 2013

iH8DemLibz said:
RE: Which FFL's will start releasing after 7 days.

My all knowing crystal ball is out for repair. Sorry.

My question is this. If my crystal ball is shot out and can't be repaired, can I build an H-BALL after 10-1 using the all knowing, raw glass I purchased prior to 10-1?

P.S. Is this just more OT predictions or is this fact at this point?

Fact of point in one thread someone has posted a picture of the form they signed on another tread the manager of OnTarget reported they are doing the oldest app first and moving newer. Granted it could still be people talking out there behind but it looks as close to fact as you can get at this point.

Thanks
Robert

tsmith1499 · May 10, 2013

OT isn't the first. FYI

R1125 · May 10, 2013

tsmith1499 said:
OT isn't the first. FYI

If all the FFL's released after 7 days the backlog at MSP would be small

Reaux · May 10, 2013

yea its amazing what happens when they use the laws in place

NarlocB · May 10, 2013

i just wish the FFL's doing this got credit in the public eye for following the law even though MSP can't do their jobs in a reasonable time.

notme0255 · May 10, 2013

cz27jim said:
Even if an FFL decided to start releasing guns after 7 days, that practice would immediately stop as soon as someone posted someplace like, say, on a public forum on the internet , that they were doing it. Because then, every prohibited person looking for a gun would rush to their store knowing that they would get the gun before the disapproved paperwork came back.

Correct! IMHO, go deal with your FFL and do your deal quietly, dont blab about it here as the media and MOM will be all over it. If one gun is released prematurely and used in a crime, the s$%# will really hit the fan. MSP would be forced to take longer in approving apps and FFLs would suffer.

Second Amendment · May 10, 2013

Freestate???? Come on, I want my new toy.

JMangle · May 10, 2013

cz27jim said:
Even if an FFL decided to start releasing guns after 7 days, that practice would immediately stop as soon as someone posted someplace like, say, on a public forum on the internet , that they were doing it. Because then, every prohibited person looking for a gun would rush to their store knowing that they would get the gun before the disapproved paperwork came back.

That's on the state, in my eyes. [I'm sure the powers that be will disagree, but morally that's on the state for not doing what they are supposed to do.]

This is a cold war gentlemen, and they are doing their best to deny us arms.

rmiddle · May 10, 2013

notme0255 said:
Correct! IMHO, go deal with your FFL and do your deal quietly, dont blab about it here as the media and MOM will be all over it. If one gun is released prematurely and used in a crime, the s$%# will really hit the fan. MSP would be forced to take longer in approving apps and FFLs would suffer.

FFL already get a microscope stuck up there behind at least twice a year one by the state and one by the fed. There are not breaking any laws but then again the question is will the media blame the MSP or the FFL?

Thanks
Robert

Lou45 · May 10, 2013

Shooters Discount will start this practice next Wednesday 05/15/13, but with reasonable restrictions and rules as these will help cover my ass and these are NOT negotiable:

1. Those that are Designated Collectors and I will require two very clear copies of your DC letter per transaction.
and/or
2. Current LEO.
and/or
3. Receives an immediate "PROCEED" response from FBI NICS when called on a reg'd long gun purchase only. A delayed response will mean you wait until MSP adorns your paperwork with the "Not Disapproved" blessing and it's in my hands.
and/or
4. Current MARYLAND carry permit.

Until further advised by authorities one way or another, I will commence this practice once again, 05/15/13.

cz27jim said:
Even if an FFL decided to start releasing guns after 7 days, that practice would immediately stop as soon as someone posted someplace like, say, on a public forum on the internet , that they were doing it. Because then, every prohibited person looking for a gun would rush to their store knowing that they would get the gun before the disapproved paperwork came back.

You gotta' point there, BUT, the way Shooters Discount will be handling this matter it's almost certain that nobody that is prohibited (set aside unpaid parking tickets and similar menial ********) will be able to receive a regulated firearm.

rmiddle said:
Fact of point in one thread someone has posted a picture of the form they signed on another tread the manager of OnTarget reported they are doing the oldest app first and moving newer. Granted it could still be people talking out there behind but it looks as close to fact as you can get at this point.

Thanks, Robert

It's fact, I was there last night, and yes, I will start with the oldest apps first and work up from there. Those that fall into one or more of the four categories I listed above will be receiving a call from Shooters Discount once we have reached your application and processed as per SD's requirements. All others will have to WAIT out the gambit for MSP to do their part and return your paperwork with the "NOT DISAPPROVED" blessing on it. No exceptions for anyone.

44man · May 10, 2013

cz27jim said:
Even if an FFL decided to start releasing guns after 7 days, that practice would immediately stop as soon as someone posted someplace like, say, on a public forum on the internet , that they were doing it. Because then, every prohibited person looking for a gun would rush to their store knowing that they would get the gun before the disapproved paperwork came back.

that is correct. some here blabbed about a ffl doing almost 2 months ago. they would wait 19 days and then do a nics for an unregulated and then give you your regulated and now they have been told to stop.

i wont name them because i know they didnt like what happened and i am sure they dint want any more talk going on. and i dont know who told them to stop but i waited the ten days and went back and they were sheepishly telling everyone sorry but we have told to stop. and i was looking forward to getting mine in ten days.

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