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Old January 25th, 2020, 11:31 AM #1
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To VZ-52 or not to VZ-52:

I've always liked the inter-period weapons just post-war. The FN-49, AG-42, MAS49, and other short-lived semi-autos are like kryptonie to my bank account.

I can easily pick up a Czech VZ-52 rifle in original 7.62x45 chambering and no rhino-lining to worry about on the stock. But the price is steep, $700.

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Online dealer that I've not had issues with in the past
Ability to use CC to make it less harsh on the wallet up front

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Price is likely steep? But I'm not sure
Ammo availability can be sketchy, it's all corrosive surplus, and expensive at between $0.50 and $0.66/rnd

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Old January 25th, 2020, 02:13 PM #2
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you never pay too much, just too early
If it hasn't been monkeyed with then it should always be in demand in the future IMHO.

But I'm not the best to give advice on restraint...
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Old January 25th, 2020, 02:29 PM #3
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Buy once cry once. Not sure these will ever escalate but we have all spent way too much time pondering a purchase, probably more time than the difference between it and hunting for a bargain (though that is sometimes fun). If its a trusted seller that helps.
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Old January 25th, 2020, 09:36 PM #4
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Saw those too. I do believe they are overpriced as well and ammo is not good but we all know what the surplus market is. Someone, a lot of someone’s are gonna pay that price and they will be gone. I’m still thinking about it myself. I am leaning towards no but mostly because I have a chance to grab a yugo sks for about 300 so I’m doing that first.


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Spend the extra money and buy a VZ52/57 in 7.62x39. Yes, you will pay a premium but you can shoot a common round in the loading of your choosing and value will continue to rise (and at a quicker rate than the 7.62x45 version).

They are fine rifles and pleasant shooters. Comparing it to an SKS is like comparing a Honda Accord to a Ford pinto. Both work but one just does it sooo much better. As a caveat to that statement, the SKS is definitely the better rifle for war but we're only going to the range. In that context, the Czechnology in the VZ52 wins in every category every time.









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Spend the extra money and buy a VZ52/57 in 7.62x39. Yes, you will pay a premium but you can shoot a common round in the loading of your choosing and value will continue to rise (and at a quicker rate than the 7.62x45 version).

They are fine rifles and pleasant shooters. Comparing it to an SKS is like comparing a Honda Accord to a Ford pinto. But work but one just does is sooo much better. As a caveat to that statement, the SKS is definitely the better rifle for war but we're only going to the range. In that context, the Czechnology in the VZ52 wins in every category every time.
This! Pick one up in 7.62x39. Cheap easy to find ammo, and if you decide to sell it, it’s a easier sell.

If you’re into these” Transitional rifles” look into a Egyptian Hakim. LOTS OF FUN! Everyone at the range will wonder what you are shooting, and you will draw a crowd. 8mm Mauser with no recoil, due to the weight of this full sized battle rife, and easily the loudest rifle I own.
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I have a beauty in 7.62 x45 I'll let go for $700. and I'll throw in some ammo in to sweeten the deal. I'll be at Frederick Sunday, if interested let me know and I'll bring it along.
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This! Pick one up in 7.62x39. Cheap easy to find ammo, and if you decide to sell it, it’s a easier sell.



If you’re into these” Transitional rifles” look into a Egyptian Hakim. LOTS OF FUN! Everyone at the range will wonder what you are shooting, and you will draw a crowd. 8mm Mauser with no recoil, due to the weight of this full sized battle rife, and easily the loudest rifle I own.


Heard great stuff about the Hakim, haven’t been able to find one. Need to get that on the list.


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I have a 52 and 52/57. Very cool rifles. $700 seems really steep. Looking at gunbroker there are finished auctions for well less. Could get a similar deal if you keep your eyes peeled (or setup a search).

You are right on the ammo. I bought a crate a little over a year ago and it was $0.50/Rd delivered. They still have it:
https://www.outdoorlimited.com/rifle...By=8&mode=list
If you buy the rifle, might as well stock up on ammo. They;re never going to make it again If you get reloading dies, there are a couple different cases you can cut/reform to make work so can always shoot it even once the surplus runs out. FWIW, The 52 breaks down super easy for cleaning so corossive ammo is no big deal.

A decent 52/57 is going to run at LEAST $1200 and they seem to be going up fast. But you'll save that difference after just a crate of two of ammo so maybe worth splurging for.

x2 the Hakim is also a cool rifle. I too am drawn to the ultimate and penultimate semiauto rifles before the world went select fire.
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Damn ! I though I was reasonably knowledgeable on this category , but the Vz 52 , 52/57 had escaped my radar , and now I want one .

In the universe of shooter milsurps , the sequence should be approached in the reverse . Pounce on the stacks of decent quality surplus ammo first , then find the gun to use it .
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