Green Tip vs. Black Tip Ammo?

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  • sgt23preston

    USMC LLA. NRA Life Member
    May 19, 2011
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    Perry Hall
    Club owns the property...

    Club pays the insurance...

    Club makes the rules...

    Four choices:

    #1. Follow their rules...

    #2. Get on the Board & try to change their rules...

    #3. Find another club...

    #4. Be careful about what ammo you buy...
     

    lazarus

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    Jun 23, 2015
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    I think the federal definition is pretty murky as it really is intended for handgun rounds that can pierce soft body armor that law enforcement wears. It doesn't specifically apply to rifle rounds (though ATF tried) as most any cartridge designed for a rifle can penetrate soft body armor. Since you can get AR-platform and a few other platforms designed originally for rifles and carbines now meeting handgun specs it brings into question whether a 5.56 or similar caliber can now be classified as handgun ammunition thus within the definition of banned rounds. It's partly touched on the ATF's attempt several years ago to ban green tip 5.56 since it has a steel penetrator within the bullet. If it wasn't for public uproar and pro-gun members of Congress a ban on it could have been made without benefit of Congressional legislation.

    It's another example of how anything the government does regarding firearms and ammunition has to be looked at with a jaundiced eye...it's definitions...intent behind the proposal...and its potential misapplication due to questionable and non-specific wording.

    No, their rules are pretty clear. If it is primarily a steel core, beryllium copper tungsten carbide and one of two other compositions is considered armor piercing under federal law. M855/green tip isn’t armor piercing as only the tip is steel (and relatively mild steel, M855A1 actually has a hardened steel tip, but because the primary composition is just copper, not beryllium copper it wouldn’t be considered AP either. If anyone wants to start making M855A1 for the civically market...), about 20-30% of the overall composition. Look it up, but I think it has to be >50% to be considered AP.
     

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