Romanian PSL-54C

SCARCQB · Mar 26, 2009

I cant wait to shoot this thing and Its going to be raining this Saturday..since I am using corrosive ammo. that may be a good thing. or I can go to Cresap on Sunday instead. I have other stuff to try out. A FN PS90, A mossy 590 pump and another suppressed AR that I built from parts with a gas piston retrofit for the upper.

Rain, rain go away, come again another, my little friends want to play.

MrWhiteRabbit · Mar 26, 2009

My only concern with this rifle is that lefties need to look at the stock. Right-handed shooters get a nice cheek weld with that curved stock, lefties get a wooden blade to the jaw.

SCARCQB · Mar 26, 2009

You are absolutely right. This rifle if lefty unfriendly. The PSO / TIP2 scope also sits offset a bit to the left. This is really awkward to handle if you are a lefty. :sad20:

MrWhiteRabbit said:
My only concern with this rifle is that lefties need to look at the stock. Right-handed shooters get a nice cheek weld with that curved stock, lefties get a wooden blade to the jaw.

LowRecoil · Mar 26, 2009

The rifle is fine for lefties and in fact easier based on scope placement

hole punch · Mar 27, 2009

having trouble getting this PSL scope sighted in. i get it close at 25 yards and then at 100 it's impacting WAY to the left. what's going on? could it have something to do with the scope being offset (not top dead center above the barrel, but about 3/4" left)?

rrrrrrkevin · Mar 27, 2009

that sounds like thats definetly what it is,i wrap paper around a broomstick and put it in my rings and adjust them to be parallel with my barrel,it can deviate vertically a little bit if its set up for a moa slope i guess butnever horizontal, i try to get mine like perfectly even with the barrel then i take the top of the rings off and i put the scope in and use a bullet level on the top knob on the top and then something flat on the gun while its in a vice or on a bipod. I would consider myself an amateur but this is what I do and it works, i think i read it from one of E shells posts and just tried it and its great

rrrrrrkevin · Mar 27, 2009

I think i read to use a 1 inch dowel rod (whatever your tube diameter is) but one long enough for this I dont really keep around the house

rrrrrrkevin · Mar 27, 2009

oh wait im sorry i guess you dont have plain old rings, my bad disreguard what I said

LowRecoil · Mar 27, 2009

make sure you have it mounted in the correct place on the slide. I thought mine was but it was moving slightly after a few shots. Tighten it down securely to make sure it isn't a wandering issue first.

SCARCQB · Mar 27, 2009

I havent shot my PSL yet, still trying to figure out the scope. to mount the TIP2 , slide the scope from the rear to the front until it stops. Then tighten the lever. is that the correct way to mount it?

Also, The two screws on the turret once loosened should allow me to make elevation and windage adjustments just like a regular scope. I have noticed that the whole reticle moves up/down- left/ right with these adjustment instead of staying in the middle.

I have also laser boresighted the irons and the scope. scope was boresighted at 50 yards.

Once i have this thing zeroed at 100 yards, the turrets should be set at zero, right?
Upon using the rangefinder and figuring out range, I should adjust the elevation turret to correspond to range and there should be no holdover.

I am new to russian optics, any advice would be appreciated.

thanks guys

SCAR

SCARCQB · Mar 27, 2009

Hole punch,

That makes sense. using an off center mounted scope zeroed at 25 yards will in theory shoot to the left at 100 yards. This is like height over bore but sideways :rolleyes:

I had the same issue with my Dad's Garand sniper. the only way to zero it was at an actual 100 yard range and a spotting scope. i think, 25 yard battlesight zeroes do not work well with offset scope mounts.

Maybe when zeroing the scope at 25 yards, your point of impact should be 3/4" to the right of the aiming chevrons. ( Just an idea. Im going to try this out when i get to the range)

hole punch said:
having trouble getting this PSL scope sighted in. i get it close at 25 yards and then at 100 it's impacting WAY to the left. what's going on? could it have something to do with the scope being offset (not top dead center above the barrel, but about 3/4" left)?

UPDATED: PLEASE SEE ILLUSTRATION ON PAGE 6. Better way of using the TIP2 SCOPE

LowRecoil · Mar 27, 2009

look at how the scope locks in place. When you turn the slide handle to lock it, it actually engages in set areas. Make sure you look at it and figure out where those best areas are to stop as you slide it in. I also had to adjust the tightness on mine so that it would lock tighter. It took some time just to correct all of those issues. Then, I moved onto the scope issues with the two screws and adjustments. I have a laser boresighter and used that originally for 50 yards but havent shot it since to take it out to longer range targets. It's not as easy as a normal system to sight in as you now know. Plus, as someone said, the barrel gets hot easily (hot to even touch) so space those shots out. It takes time to get it where you want it but it guess it is to be expected from an older style rifle.

hole punch · Mar 28, 2009

LowRecoil said:
make sure you have it mounted in the correct place on the slide. I thought mine was but it was moving slightly after a few shots. Tighten it down securely to make sure it isn't a wandering issue first.

LowRecoil said:
look at how the scope locks in place. When you turn the slide handle to lock it, it actually engages in set areas. Make sure you look at it and figure out where those best areas are to stop as you slide it in. I also had to adjust the tightness on mine so that it would lock tighter. It took some time just to correct all of those issues. Then, I moved onto the scope issues with the two screws and adjustments. I have a laser boresighter and used that originally for 50 yards but havent shot it since to take it out to longer range targets. It's not as easy as a normal system to sight in as you now know. Plus, as someone said, the barrel gets hot easily (hot to even touch) so space those shots out. It takes time to get it where you want it but it guess it is to be expected from an older style rifle.

Agreed. You can actually push the scope on down further than it's supposed to go I beleive. There's a slot in the middle where the cam lever thingy goes into and locks the scope in place and it's set more than 1/8 inch reward of the furthest point you can push the scope to. I'm pretty sure the scope has to be centered on this slot to be properly mounted.

As for tightness of the camming lever thingy, mines a bitch to get off as it is. Need tools to unlock it, so I have a feeling mines just fine like it is. I guess I'll find out if the recoil causes it to start walking down the scope rail hehe.

SCARCQB said:
I havent shot my PSL yet, still trying to figure out the scope. to mount the TIP2 , slide the scope from the rear to the front until it stops. Then tighten the lever. is that the correct way to mount it?

Also, The two screws on the turret once loosened should allow me to make elevation and windage adjustments just like a regular scope. I have noticed that the whole reticle moves up/down- left/ right with these adjustment instead of staying in the middle.

I have also laser boresighted the irons and the scope. scope was boresighted at 50 yards.

Once i have this thing zeroed at 100 yards, the turrets should be set at zero, right?
Upon using the rangefinder and figuring out range, I should adjust the elevation turret to correspond to range and there should be no holdover.

I am new to russian optics, any advice would be appreciated.

thanks guys

SCAR

That sounds right about centereing the turrents to zero. I was thinking the same thing. I still need to pick up a new set of precision screwdrivers since I broke all of mine over th years using them for jobs they weren't intended for (Oh but, boy do they sure make nice picks and pin punches, etc lol)

SCARCQB said:
Hole punch,

That makes sense. using an off center mounted scope zeroed at 25 yards will in theory shoot to the left at 100 yards. This is like height over bore but sideways

I had the same issue with my Dad's Garand sniper. the only way to zero it was at an actual 100 yard range and a spotting scope. i think, 25 yard battlesight zeroes do work well with offset scope mounts.

Maybe when zeroing the scope at 25 yards, your point of impact should be 3/4" to the right of the aiming chevrons. ( Just an idea. Im going to try this out when i get to the range)

awesome drawing, SCAR! Thanks for taking the time to put that together. For some reason I was reluctant to beleive it was the offset scope because I was hinking it would cause impact to the RIGHT, but now that I see youre diagram it makes perfect sense.

Phew, for a few weeks there I was really discouraged from trying to sight this puppy in. It's just that scopes are still so new to me. Now I think I'm ready to do the deed. :thumbsup:

Thanks guys. Hopefully I will have pictures of targets to post up before long

BlairWright · Mar 28, 2009

Nice rifle, I'll be looking for the same weapon in the very near future - great price IMO

Thanks for the writeup

FCobra94 · Mar 28, 2009

Nice looking rifle man!

I'm interested in picking one up myself and while doing reasearch, I stumbled upon this site and noticed that most of you guys actually live right in my back yard!

Anyway, would you buy from J&G again? I noticed that ClassicArms and AimSurplus have similar prices on their PSL variants but I'm not really sure who imported/assembled those versions...

Thanks and good luck at the range!

SCARCQB · Mar 29, 2009

What's up with all the youtube videos of PSL owners rapid firing this type of weapon? Rapid firing a 7.62x54R while looking thru a scope, It looks idiotic.

hole punch · Mar 29, 2009

FCobra94 said:
Nice looking rifle man!

I'm interested in picking one up myself and while doing reasearch, I stumbled upon this site and noticed that most of you guys actually live right in my back yard!

Anyway, would you buy from J&G again? I noticed that ClassicArms and AimSurplus have similar prices on their PSL variants but I'm not really sure who imported/assembled those versions...

Thanks and good luck at the range!

I think they're all complete finished rifles coming out of Cugir, Romania these days, someone correct me if I'm wrong.

And welcome to the where all the fun is! I found MDShooters while googling for info trying to wrap my head around MD gun laws. What county you located in?

SCARCQB said:
What's up with all the youtube videos of PSL owners rapid firing this type of weapon? Rapid firing a 7.62x54R while looking thru a scope, It looks idiotic.

I don't know what it is about gun videos on youtube. I swear, you give a 16 year old kid a gun and his buddy a camera and their IQs drop like rocks. I'm surprised there isn't more accidental shootings and ka-booms on youtube with all the idiocy we see on there sometimes :sad20:

05dodgedaytona · Mar 29, 2009

That is nice.

SCARCQB · Mar 29, 2009

PSL54C, TIP2 SCOPE, VERSAPOD BIPOD

Hey Guys,

I came across this site while looking for info on the TIP2 scope. This may help clarify some issues. http://www.kalinkaoptics.com/Manuals/KOPOSPFixedManual.pdf

Some areas are however, clear as mud.

FCobra94 · Mar 29, 2009

hole punch said:
And welcome to the where all the fun is! I found MDShooters while googling for info trying to wrap my head around MD gun laws. What county you located in?

Thanks!

I'm acutally in Anne Arundel County, just outside of Annapolis.

Yeah, it seems that I couldn't have picked a worse time to start getting into target shooting, considering that the AK's, etc. that I am now intersted in seem to have doubled in price recently

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