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Old March 15th, 2019, 10:56 AM #61
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Old March 15th, 2019, 10:57 AM #62
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the absurdity here is that it is OK to loan a handgun to someone you are not aware is prohibited (HB96), but to loan a hunting rifle you have to do a NICS check at an FFL.

WTF?

and, I really can't imagine an FFL doing a NICS check for a "loan". ain't gonna happen. even if they would do one for a private sale, no way they will for a loan.

so go ahead and loan out your handguns, but go to jail for loaning out your shotgun.

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Old March 15th, 2019, 11:00 AM #63
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This was probably exactly what they wanted from the beginning. The LQL nonsense was likely thrown in to make it look so horrible that we should all now thank our Lords and Masters for such a generous bill. They were never serious about the LQL IMHO. That would have alienated the hunters and the general population way too much.
I couldn't agree more here. They outsmart us all the time using this means.
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If the submit a 1000's bills and one gets passed they will call it a victory. That is why, I say we fight them and do the same thing. Flood the MGA, with bills calling for withdraw or changing the laws.
I have brought this up before.

Flood each of these junk bills with amendments. Bog them down.
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Old March 15th, 2019, 11:29 AM #66
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Fracking Hell...can we stop the infighting for maybe a few days?! This bill needs to be defeated if possible. Focus on that and take care of the long-term issues later.

These threads take on a life of their own, I get it. But the fighting is fruitless and does nothing but embolden the other Gorram side.

Friday, March 15, 2019 - CONTACT YOUR DELEGATES instead of bitching and sniping at each other here. These bills will be talked about on the floor session on Friday (scheduled for 12:30PM) or possibly Saturday (TBD).

If you don't know who to contact, enter your home address at https://mdelect.net to determine their contact information. Send them emails, call their offices, comment on their social media pages. Let them know where you stand.


Already done! And spread on twitter and Facebook! Contacted my LGS so they can post on Facebook.

Fabs, seriously. Stop mucking up these threads. Iím trying to gain info to disseminate and I have to read through post after post of your diatribe. Itís annoying at the least and disrespectful to the community at large who are trying to gather their info here.


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Seems all designed to get in front of panic buying. No LQL and one per month limit, people might not feel like they need to stock up. Training, finger printing, and paying for a license that limits you to one a month, and people will binge purchase.

And for those that still might be motivated or worried about failing NICS checks, the June deadline shortens the time window to stock up.

Absolute bullsh1t that they're trying to take away the ability of someone to lend a long gun to someone that you have no reason to believe is prohibited without going to a gun store and paying a fee. How does it get transferred back? Another fee? And if the lendee doesn't want to because it's not a temporary loan but a permanent transfer?


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This can easily be solved. Pass a bill that makes it illegal to loan a gun to a prohibited person, DON'T put more onerous restrictions on the law abiding.
This won't prevent a straw purchase as those are already illegal.
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Depends on whether you are for or against keeping firearms out of the hands of mentally ill people.

You want Adam Lanza, Nikolas Cruz, Eric Harris, Dylan Klebold, etc. buying firearms off of yard sale tables? Granted, a NICS check probably would not have stopped them from buying guns though because there was nothing in NICS that would have showed they were mentally deranged. The Arizona theater shooter might have been stopped had NICS been updated with his psychiatric record.

Maybe we should work on shoring up NICS for mental disorders and not worrying about convicts that roam among us as free people.
WTF did I just read? Either they would pass a background check and it wouldnít stop it or itís already illegal. Putting aside the fact MURDER IS ALREADY ILLEGAL. Want to apologize some more for infringement, mate?
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WTF did I just read? Either they would pass a background check and it wouldnít stop it or itís already illegal. Putting aside the fact MURDER IS ALREADY ILLEGAL. Want to apologize some more for infringement, mate?
He's a FUDD dude relax. They're worse than liberals. Because they pretend they're for you.
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