Long1MD
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YOU are behind enemy lines now VA...now what do we do?
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11b10
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You had better wake up the changes and demographics of the country; the culture wars are essentially over. (except for the lunatic fringe) You can not win a national election with a Rick Santourm ect. Who cares what consenting adults do, the religious right is dragging the republican party down. I would rather get 70% of some than nothing. Actually the 2nd amendment is ranking higher - that people support it in polls over the years nationally, while social issues only resonate with enough people that you can't win a national election.
Second Amendment
Ultimate Member
- May 11, 2011
- 8,665
I want a name of an office holder that wants to outlaw sodomy. There are two members on this forum that are obsessed with that and the right to blow jobs.
- Feb 17, 2011
- 14,024
Doesn't VA swap governor parties every election.
11b10
Member
That was 30 years ago..... things have changed, people don't hate the gay like they used to (except some people). Each year more people are ambivalent about this topic. It is a losing proposition in a national election.
ma_deuce
Ultimate Member
The Republicans are shooting themselves in the foot over abortion. I personally know a lot of women who are solidly onboard with the fiscal conservatism and smaller gov't messages, but are totally opposed to the no abortion ever under any circumstances position. My wife's one of them, even though she votes Republican. If the GOP continues to make this a litmus test, it won't regain the Presidency.
TxAggie
Ultimate Member
Ugh, so much wrong here I hope I get get through it without getting a migraine.
1. The NRA is only one group, and in VA they were very active, we didn't see it because their name tagged to anything in NOVA would have had collateral damage.
2. You're right, but not in the way you think. The "Republican" candidate lost in the primaries, so the RNC picked up their ball and went home. They spent 1/3 the amount they spent 4 years ago when McDonnell ran (and won).
3. VA Governors are limited to no back-to-back terms.
4. Yes, let's just turn our heads and let innocent, defenseless children continue to be slaughtered because it's politically expedient. It's not a political issue, it's a human rights issue. The woman had a choice prior to becoming pregnant (unless it was rape, and that's a completely different issue).
obnoxious2
Active Member
Maybe if the republicans would stop shooting themselves in the foot with their "high moral values". I know plenty of people who's ideology would make them repub but because of issues like abortion and gay rights they will vote for democrat
Useless advice. I know of no Democrat voters who, if the Republican said "abortions for free any time you want one" and "superior rights for gays", would change their vote to Republican. None.
I know of many Democrats who think that the Federal shutdown problems are the fault of the Republicans, not Obama who ordered how the shutdown was to be done. A true triumph of propaganda over fact.
PO2012
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- Oct 24, 2013
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I care because those consenting adults you speak of are able to vote the same as you or I. The trouble is that drug addicts and drug abusers, alcoholics, whores and degenerate gamblers are slaves to their respective vices. Making an informed decision on election day isn't high on their list of priorities. These folks are easily misled, easily bribed and just as easily kept in their place by career politicians. If you think that you can have a functioning Constitutional Republic when the majority of the population is obsessed with vice think again. The Founders made it clear that our system of government was designed for a moral people and fit for no other.
Baltimore City is the poster child for consenting adults in action. Dope and coke flow like water, prostitutes are easy to come by, alcoholism is rampant, illegitimate children run the streets at 2 AM as though it were normal and probation before judgment is the sanction of choice for criminal behavior. If the choices consenting adults make didn't matter and didn't affect others Baltimore City would be just as safe and peaceful as it was in 1950. Unfortunately choices have consequences. Degenerates tend not to care about their liberties so long as they can continue to wallow in their own filth. I've known more than a few individuals personally who were committed to personal liberty until vice creeped in. After that they were indifferent or hostile toward freedom.
Long1MD
Ultimate Member
The female vote played more of a role in this than the polls will admit. As another member here stated, and from women that I have spoken to, the abortion issue caused them to vote Dem this time. They liken it to someone telling us NO MORE AR-15's. They may not be running out to all have abortions, but they don't want to be told that they can't. I'm not sure how much gay rights played, but like it or not, the gay community is here to stay and they hold offices. As far as abortion is concerned, women will find a way to have them legally or illegally. I would rather abortions be done in a steril environment by a trained professional.
At this point I believe that the only Republicans that will stand the test of time will be those who are not so Fire-and-Brimstone to the right. That brings up another point. If we could get an Independent that would be the best of both worlds, that would be great. Unfortunately, in this country, you have to be Dem or Repub to win a Presidential Election. I personally have a hard time voting for either in the past few elections. I have spoken with many hispanics that I have worked with. They are actually Republican because of their moral beliefs, but the Republicans (to the right again) give the angry, non tolerant face to them. Again, if staunch Repubs would stop and listen, they would actually gain voters by working out a compromise in the immigration arena.
At this point I believe that the only Republicans that will stand the test of time will be those who are not so Fire-and-Brimstone to the right. That brings up another point. If we could get an Independent that would be the best of both worlds, that would be great. Unfortunately, in this country, you have to be Dem or Repub to win a Presidential Election. I personally have a hard time voting for either in the past few elections. I have spoken with many hispanics that I have worked with. They are actually Republican because of their moral beliefs, but the Republicans (to the right again) give the angry, non tolerant face to them. Again, if staunch Repubs would stop and listen, they would actually gain voters by working out a compromise in the immigration arena.
Brooklyn
I stand with John Locke.
What a shame its only a win for republicans. I mean imagine what would happen if democrats tried it as well
I think we should demand that democrats start acting the way some people think the republicans should..
How do we do that again ?
Brooklyn
I stand with John Locke.
Then maybe you should lecture the democrats to be more like republications.. you know limited government fiscal restraint ... good luck with that BTW.
Brooklyn
I stand with John Locke.
You do know the court has ruled right? And the Senate is democratic right? And there are 3 branches of government ( I mean when the president honors the constitution of course
) Oh well ...
good luck with the hyper inflation --
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Reap what you sow, if you haven't figured out what the 3d party does by now..... too bad for you. 
First bold - Where is that cake cartoon about gun ownership? So likewise, we should have no NFA/etc/etc and they should just let us have our guns, any way we want them and WE wouldn't have to push an agenda as well right?
Second bold - skipped that whole part about the shop receiving death threats did ya? If an openly gay shop received death threats and shut their doors, Holder would be investigating it as a hate crime, but because they were a religious conservative shop, it was open season.
I'm sorry but I live my life according to His will and if you are doing something that goes against that, don't ever expect me to accept you. I don't see how a person can say they are gay and religious in the same breath. It is all or nothing, you don't get to pick and choose which parts of the Bible you agree with and ignore the other parts. Along those same lines, murder is murder, whether you are 9 weeks old or 90 years old.
Most recently I saw a story on the news last night about wanting to lower the abortion restriction to 20 weeks I think. Pro-choice groups say there is no scientific evidence that a fetus (they don't want to call it a human cause then it would be murder) can feel pain at 20 weeks so abortion should still be legal. Guess what folks, only the unborn baby can tell you if that hurts or not, just like the death-row inmante who gets sleepy time before getting the toxin. Yet we wan't to ban the death sentence because there is no proof the criminal doesn't feel pain. Behold the circular reasoning of the liberal's anti-logic.
Mooseman
R.I.P.- Hooligan #4
Many of us conservatives are still living in the past. We vote. Many of us and we vote. Think about that for a minute. I am only 47 years old and I voted for Reagan. There are many of us still alive. We that are old enough to have voted for Reagan are probably the largest voting block. You state that it is no longer 1776. 1776 is the era that the Second Amendment is from. If, by your logic, my silly ideas from the 1980's are no longer valid, the silly ideas of the 1770's are really outdated. The Second Amendment should be replaced with something more modern and less conservative. This is where your type of thinking leads to.
kcbrown
Super Genius
- Jun 16, 2012
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Why does rape make it a different issue?
- Nov 11, 2009
- 30,871
Because being raped does not permit the woman to choose whether to get pregnant?
