Tihsho
Secret Asian Man
Which make did they have in stock outrider?
9mm AR lower
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Mine was one of their E-4 dedicated lowers. Those were 'made to order' one time run. Check with Engage for what they are carrying now. They are closed on Sunday/Mondays.
awptickes
Member
Here's my wife's 9mm ar:
She milled it out herself from an 80%, and can't be more proud.
She milled it out herself from an 80%, and can't be more proud.
sailskidrive
Legalize the Constitution
Is there an advantage to a Glock lower over the typical Colt mag lower? (other than Glock mags 
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jimbobborg
Oddball caliber fan
Is there an advantage to a Glock lower over the typical Colt mag lower? (other than Glock mags
Steel versus plastic mags, being able to find magazines at just about any gun store and/or big box sporting goods store.
Here's my wife's 9mm ar:
She milled it out herself from an 80%, and can't be more proud.
Nice. She's a keeper!
I love doing 80% lowers but I use a jig that doesn't work with the New Frontier lowers.
awptickes
Member
You're more than welcome to borrow mine. You can even use my workshop to do it.
Yeah, have you tried to find UZI or Colt mags? Geeze, it's tough. I have a colt adapter, but can't really use it because I don't have any mags.
jimbobborg
Oddball caliber fan
The CMMG lower I'm (hopefully) getting today includes four magazines. Otherwise I'd save my money and get a Glock lower.
sailskidrive
Legalize the Constitution
I didn't have any issue locating some Colt style mags but I see the point about the availability of Glock mags.
Of course then you need a Glock compatible BCG and 98% of the BCGs out there are for the Colt design.
I thought maybe there was something else super compelling about the design.
I really like the 9mm AR platform; lots of fun to shoot. It's a filthy little beast though...
Of course then you need a Glock compatible BCG and 98% of the BCGs out there are for the Colt design.
I thought maybe there was something else super compelling about the design.
I really like the 9mm AR platform; lots of fun to shoot. It's a filthy little beast though...
Tihsho
Secret Asian Man
Glock mags just made more sense for a lot of people just based on the fact they already own a Glock or are looking at purchasing one in the future. To share mags with multiple firearms are nice. Most pics I see of 9mm AR builds show their paired pistol with them, and rarely do I see an Uzi paired with an AR if at all, haha. That said there are a few people on here that probably could do that.
I went with the Glock lower based on convenience of mag support, the ability to share mags on firearms I own, as well as ergonomics of the magazine port compared to the Colt style. The ergonomics of the Glock mag well allows you to use the mag as a light grip support, if needed, in a nice angled position. The Colt layout is a vertical setup, which to me feels awkward as a vertical grip support feels more natural further up the setup.
Some others have mentioned one caveat though, the bolt layout. Glock capable bolts are machined to work with the Glock mags and guides, so you will either have to get a pre milled bolt or take it to a gunsmith to get milled which is an added cost.
I have yet to take the setup I picked up last week out to the range based on the fact I want to get a better buffer setup in the lower before taking the first shots. As some of you are aware, the blowback action of the 9mm can beat up your lower, so I want to make sure I have an appropriate setup for 9mm rather than the carbine buffer and spring that came with my lower.
I went with the Glock lower based on convenience of mag support, the ability to share mags on firearms I own, as well as ergonomics of the magazine port compared to the Colt style. The ergonomics of the Glock mag well allows you to use the mag as a light grip support, if needed, in a nice angled position. The Colt layout is a vertical setup, which to me feels awkward as a vertical grip support feels more natural further up the setup.
Some others have mentioned one caveat though, the bolt layout. Glock capable bolts are machined to work with the Glock mags and guides, so you will either have to get a pre milled bolt or take it to a gunsmith to get milled which is an added cost.
I have yet to take the setup I picked up last week out to the range based on the fact I want to get a better buffer setup in the lower before taking the first shots. As some of you are aware, the blowback action of the 9mm can beat up your lower, so I want to make sure I have an appropriate setup for 9mm rather than the carbine buffer and spring that came with my lower.
I found several at the Chantilly gun show a few months ago. Picked up 2 OEM and 2 Metalform.
I didn't have any issue locating some Colt style mags but I see the point about the availability of Glock mags.
Of course then you need a Glock compatible BCG and 98% of the BCGs out there are for the Colt design.
I thought maybe there was something else super compelling about the design.
I really like the 9mm AR platform; lots of fun to shoot. It's a filthy little beast though...
Filthy little beast is right. Thanks you just gave mine a name. "Red Dragon" let's see who gets the reference.
j_h_smith
Ultimate Member
- Jul 28, 2007
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I found 6 old Colt mags (NOS) at the last Oaks show I attended. Price was $55 each, since I bought 6, he sold them for $50 each. There were 4 or 5 vendors with them that day. I cherry picked the best looking in the show. All were being sold for between $55 and $65.
They are out there, and in my opinion, are worth paying the price.
YMMV
How long are those pistols without the FS on the end.
j_h_smith
Ultimate Member
- Jul 28, 2007
- 28,516
You will need a 10.5 inch barrel to get you to 29 inches without getting creative with an exotic butt stock or pinning a FS onto the barrel.
It needs to be 29" for a pistol?
j_h_smith
Ultimate Member
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Sorry, this is for a SBR.
awptickes
Member
My wife's pistol is right around 22" long with a brace and 7.5" barrel.
Which buffer and spring did you go with for both rifle and pistol? Is it reliable?I really like the New Frontier Glock mag lowers. JoeBob outfitters sells them branded as "Spartan". I got a blem one on sale for $125 which I made a rifle out of. I have a New Frontier lower I am slowing building a pistol with.
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