AR lower stripped and 80%?

lazarus · Jul 8, 2016

So, I am feeling like it is time for me to legit look in to getting one. The questions I have are things MSP aren't clear about on their site and I am sure asking three people will get four answers from them.

For an 80%, I understand they are MD legal, but what surety is there if they are later banned, that I can prove mine was purchased and completed prior to any ban? That is my biggest concern on going that route. Not that I am thrilled about it, but could I register it with MSP once completed so they have a record that it was all done prior to any stupid legislation?

The next is, MSP state any restricted firearm requires an HQL to purchase, but they then go on to state later they don't consider a lower a handgun, but a firearm. For just a complete, but stripped, AR-15 lower, is an HQL required? Or are HQLs really only for handguns?

Thanks!

mdram · Jul 8, 2016

no hql for stripped lower, but there is a 7 day wait
i have 2 awaiting me to do paperwork atm

lazarus · Jul 8, 2016

mdram said:
no hql for stripped lower, but there is a 7 day wait
i have 2 awaiting me to do paperwork atm

Thanks!

Anyone on the 80% question?

eruby · Jul 8, 2016

No guarantee of proof of ownership without MSP registration, but isn't the point of an 80% so MSP doesn't know you own it?

I have no 80% items, but if I did, I wouldn't be keen to register them.

Tnt9506 · Jul 8, 2016

From what I've learned, a stripped lower is treated like a regulated firearm and undergoes the 77r and a 7 day wait. No hql is needed for a lower. I've been rolling with this idea myself for a few months now.

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lazarus · Jul 8, 2016

eruby said:
No guarantee of proof of ownership without MSP registration, but isn't the point of an 80% so MSP doesn't know you own it?

I have no 80% items, but if I did, I wouldn't be keen to register them.

Mine is more the hassle of the 77r and lower price of an 80%. Also, still not sure I really want an AR, but I don't want the laws to change and then regret it 10 years later or something. I can finish an 80% in an evening easily if it looks likely that the laws may change. Running out to buy a stripped lower if it looks like the laws may change sounds expensive and risky when everyone else is doing the same thing.

They aren't all running over to my house to borrow my drill press if the laws look likely to change.

But I dunno, I may just head over to 2A tomorrow and see what they have.

mdram · Jul 8, 2016

lazarus said:
Mine is more the hassle of the 77r and lower price of an 80%. Also, still not sure I really want an AR, but I don't want the laws to change and then regret it 10 years later or something. I can finish an 80% in an evening easily if it looks likely that the laws may change. Running out to buy a stripped lower if it looks like the laws may change sounds expensive and risky when everyone else is doing the same thing.

They aren't all running over to my house to borrow my drill press if the laws look likely to change.

But I dunno, I may just head over to 2A tomorrow and see what they have.

80%'s are running @ 70-80
joebob has anderson for 49.95, add $30 transfer fee and its not a price issue

stu929 · Jul 8, 2016

I have plenty 100% the question is if I should add an 80 to the safe.

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Shazam · Jul 8, 2016

If your trying to plan for the future, owning both registered lower(s) and unregistered built from 80% lower(s) may be the best plan.

davsco · Jul 8, 2016

not a lawyer nor marylander, but if you keep a receipt for an 80% lower, and purchase the parts at the same time, seems it would be difficult for the state to refute it was built on or about that timeframe.

lazarus · Jul 8, 2016

Ok thanks. Right now I think I might go the 100% route and maybe stop by 2A next weekend. I might add an 80% later.

Docster · Jul 8, 2016

There are gun shows in PA that sell 80% lowers. Unregulated, cash 'n carry. I've not bought any but see them all the time.

Muleskinner · Jul 8, 2016

Even if 80% were banned by the liberal vermin in Assapolis just a hop over the boarder and you can buy all you'd like...and "registering" your 80 defeats the purpose of it...Gun? what gun?

Hit and Run · Jul 9, 2016

Cheap Stripped or 80% comes down to FFL transfer or not. Not that much on price differential. You want a quality lower of better grade material price goes up a bit.

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nmyers · Jul 9, 2016

A drill press won't do it; you need a mill.

Neal

GTOGUNNER · Jul 9, 2016

nmyers said:
A drill press won't do it; you need a mill.

Neal

I used a drill press with and end mill bit, turned out fine. Take your time..

awptickes · Jul 9, 2016

GTOGUNNER said:
I used a drill press with and end mill bit, turned out fine. Take your time..

You have to go really slowly unless you're using a mill. Even with a router. The slower you go, the better finish the pocket will have, which means easier cleaning.

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