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Old March 14th, 2019, 11:18 PM #51
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I can easily see the setup that you are referring to. I am curious to see what type of registration scheme is going to take place as well. If the 80 percents need to be applied for and serialized PRIOR to making the firearm with no grandfathering then that is going to chap a lot of asses. A battle to be taken up another day (again).

I refuse to let the MGA make me walk on eggshells in the meantime. Worse case scenario, If I already own the tools to make an 80, I build some 80's today and they become illegal next session- take them apart and rebuild on a registered lower if compliance is a concern. It's a money and time waste but a hobby is a hobby.... FUN! Until the MGA or the FEDS wants to marsh my mellow...fun rules.
Why I bought a serialized G17 frame. I figured this one would pass as written. Looks like my polymer 80 will be okay for now.

Next year, who knows. Hopefully this thing still goes in the toilet instead.
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Old March 15th, 2019, 01:50 AM #52
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cnc still shaped the raw block of material
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Old March 15th, 2019, 01:35 PM #53
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For some reason in my tracker, this bill is now showing status of:

Special Order until 03/16 (Delegate Kipke) Adopted

http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/webmga/fr...ect3&ys=2019RS

In any case, here's a link to the amendments on the website itself:

http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/2019RS/am...0_58291801.pdf

NOTE that this is NOT the "bill as amended" as seen in the other thread. This is just the amendments themselves, you would need to look at the original bill language and synthesize the two to get the product.


EDIT: My Annapolis friend says the "Special Order" thing is a delaying tactic. Given that Kipke is an R this could be a good thing. No idea.

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The Minority Leader (Del Nic Kipke) asked for more time to review the changed bill and to allow time for potential amendments (which occur during 2nd Reader debate). Hence the "Special Order" until tomorrow.

Keep communicating your concerns with your Delegates, folks.
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are the p80 glock kits ok for now ???
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As of right now, and my understanding, yes, but only if you do NOT use a CNC to finish it.

Tools like GhostGunner will NOT be allowed to be used.
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Fully 3D printed firearms are literally bombs with a better then 50/50 chance of blowing up in a favorable direction.
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As of right now, and my understanding, yes, but only if you do NOT use a CNC to finish it.

Tools like GhostGunner will NOT be allowed to be used.
Seems that it would be pretty hard for them to prove whether or not someone used a CNC machine to finish their 80% lower. Sure there are fewer or no flaws, however if a guy says I did it on my drill press, then he did it on his drill press.
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Seems that it would be pretty hard for them to prove whether or not someone used a CNC machine to finish their 80% lower. Sure there are fewer or no flaws, however if a guy says I did it on my drill press, then he did it on his drill press.
They cant prove it. It's to say we did something!! And is a rubber hose they can pull you out and flog you with if they want to.
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Why I bought a serialized G17 frame. I figured this one would pass as written. Looks like my polymer 80 will be okay for now.

Next year, who knows. Hopefully this thing still goes in the toilet instead.
I did serialized ar-lowers pre-2013 when nobody knew what the hell was going to happen. Fingers crossed, the 80 percent thing simmers down. I am hitting Annapolis next legislative session. I did all that I could from my corner of the universe this year. I am curious to see what next year brings.
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