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Old March 15th, 2019, 01:21 PM #31
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I still can't believe how DC blew past us and allowed handgun permits without reasoning, but Maryland still bawking at it
I think it's worth mentioning that "DC" didn't do anything. On the contrary, they did everything they could to prevent it from coming to pass (shy of appealing at the final step, because Frosh offered who knows what back-scratching to make them not get smacked down in the SCOTUS, too). It wasn't that DC came to their senses faster than Maryland did, it's that an opportunity for a solid court case aligned with the rest of the circumstances and resources, and they were forced to change their ways. I'm hoping the same will happen in Maryland, and nation-wide, for that matter. Because that's what's going to give us relief here, just like in DC.
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Old March 15th, 2019, 01:22 PM #32
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And I can easily see Frosh and the MGA ignoring a SCOTUS ruling ordering SHALL ISSUE to Maryland. Obviously they would be forced to comply, but they could delay it for quite a while..
Meanwhile MD would be Constitutional carry. A Right delayed is a Right denied.
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I still can't believe how DC blew past us and allowed handgun permits without reasoning, but Maryland still bawking at it
I was shocked when Illinois fell. Apoplectic when DC did so. Every state under the 4th Circuit is shall issue...except MD. Hard to fathom why other than justice in our case is truly blind.
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Perhaps Maryland will be the case that drives the wooden stake into the heart of the anti gun undead for all time and in future the case of Maryland Shall Issue vs Maryland will be cited in all the history books like:
Dred Scott v. Sandford, 60 U.S. 393
Brown v. Board of Education, 347 U.S. 483
Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113
Katz v. United States, 389 U.S. 347
Miranda v. Arizona, 384 U.S. 436
District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570
McDonald v. Chicago, 561 U.S. 742
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Perhaps Maryland will be the case that drives the wooden stake into the heart of the anti gun undead for all time and in future the case of Maryland Shall Issue vs Maryland will be cited in all the history books like:
Dred Scott v. Sandford, 60 U.S. 393
Brown v. Board of Education, 347 U.S. 483
Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113
Katz v. United States, 389 U.S. 347
Miranda v. Arizona, 384 U.S. 436
District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570
McDonald v. Chicago, 561 U.S. 742
That'd be true Karma.
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[QUOTE=danb;5512243]He is probably more in tune with his constituents. Residents are actually ok with this. Every person I talk to lib or conservative would be fine with this. Its our old-time establishment overlords like Frosh who aren't.

Back of the envelope, New York State case will be heard in Oct and opinion out Jan or Feb. Some 5-4 decisions take longer but with Kennedy gone I doubt there will be much wrangling. Which means, SCT will have more than likely issued an opinion before the next legislative session.[/QUOTE]

I've kind of been curious about this myself. Normally a "landmark" 2A case would be released on the last day of the term even if it were heard early in the term. But this case may slip a little more under the radar since it's fighting a law that even the libs wouldn't lose sleep over. Then there's other SCOTUS cases next term that may eclipse this one.
I do agree a decent chance this gets released before the last day of the term.
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Im surprised they actually voted on it and didnt just desk drawer it like usual.
That, my friends, is progress. At least we know where the players stand now.
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