House Democrats to Introduce Bill Criminalizing Private Gun Sales: HR8

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  • ToolAA

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    Every time I hear the term "common sense" come or of a Liberal's mouth, I want to vomit.


    The tragedy is that the Pro 2a forces didn’t brand the term “Common Sense” gun laws when the assaults on the 2a moved into high gear.

    We could be arguing for “Common Sense” gun laws which would ensure the protection of and access for Americans per their constitutional right.

    If we want to ensure we have a second amendment in 100yrs, We need to brand our cause in way that resonates with most Americans, including snowflakes, sjw’s, all minorities, all levels if income, all genders (and gender identities).

    We need to be making tee shirts that read “The second amendment was written to protect Snowflakes too”.


    Eruby, I’ll save you a few keystrokes....


    Thomas Paine Approves!
     

    Doctor_M

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    The real underlying reason why the forces of tyranny keep pushing for the prohibition on face to face sales is it is an absolutely essential requirement in the progressive move towards complete registration... which is of course an absolutely essential requirement towards confiscation.... which is an absolutely essential requirement for complete domination. Checkmate in three moves.
     

    East2West

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    East2West

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    I am surprised they're doing this. I mean Trump has allowed rapid fire trigger activators to be considered machine guns, I really thought the Demoncrats would take a few years off of their gun control push.
     

    GlocksAndPatriots

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    And arguably the biggest (only?) federal gun rights bill in the last decade was the Credit Card Act, signed by Obama, giving us carry in National Parks.

    I hate UBCs, because I see them as a back door to universal registration, and they will make you a straw purchaser if you loan your rifle to your buddy for the weekend, and him an illegal possessor. Yes, there is a way you could write the law to exclude those and other situations. But how the heck do you enforce it without keeping a perpetual database of the UBCs?

    Even so. The train has left the station and I fear we have generally lost the argument against UBCs. We might as well get as much as we can, while we can.

    That's exactly my position. If it can be run for free from a phone (in two minutes), then it'll be basically burdenless and it will be easy to showcase bad faith later if the left tries to ad expenses through an FFL for it.
     

    randomuser

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    Part of the problem is the arguments made on each side

    2a activist say:
    don't make new rules

    anti 2a communists say:
    we want w,x, y

    Anti 2a communist gets:
    W passed

    Next time anti 2a communist says:
    We want X,Y,Z

    This time they get X passed

    Each time they get another inch of the mile, but there is not really a way for a 2a activist to get back "permissions" once they are taken away. Sure, you have a few here and there, but on the whole, look at Cali, NY, NJ as prime examples. I mean, we are here in MD. Whats the likelyhood that we will be able to buy a standard 30 round mag anytime in our life?

    See, the difference between
    Anti 2a communist
    and
    2a activist
    is that the Communist only has to win one time to effect change. The 2a crew has to win every single time just to keep their freedoms. I can't figure any way that it can be different. I'm being dead on serious. Does anyone have any ideas on how you effect change to literally "keep things from changing"?
     

    TheOriginalMexicanBob

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    Jul 2, 2017
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    Part of the problem is the arguments made on each side

    2a activist say:
    don't make new rules

    anti 2a communists say:
    we want w,x, y

    Anti 2a communist gets:
    W passed

    Next time anti 2a communist says:
    We want X,Y,Z

    This time they get X passed

    Each time they get another inch of the mile, but there is not really a way for a 2a activist to get back "permissions" once they are taken away. Sure, you have a few here and there, but on the whole, look at Cali, NY, NJ as prime examples. I mean, we are here in MD. Whats the likelyhood that we will be able to buy a standard 30 round mag anytime in our life?

    See, the difference between
    Anti 2a communist
    and
    2a activist
    is that the Communist only has to win one time to effect change. The 2a crew has to win every single time just to keep their freedoms. I can't figure any way that it can be different. I'm being dead on serious. Does anyone have any ideas on how you effect change to literally "keep things from changing"?

    It has several names...incrementalism...the "Rock Soup Method"...creeping Socialism. It's all the same thing and the Leftists have been using it for many decades. It's also how the Communists operate...especially in Asia...prepare and operate for the long haul...tire your opponent out and eventually get the win.
     

    GlocksAndPatriots

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    I've been calling for just such a system for years, provided that it is purely voluntary for FTF sales.

    I'm okay with making it mandatory for FTF sales IF AND ONLY IF we get something really good in return.

    That being said, there must be no registration. In other words, you enter in the person's DLIC information, and it returns "Proceed" or "Denied." There must not be an entry of a serial number or anything else.
     

    Major03

    Ultimate Member
    Part of the problem is the arguments made on each side

    2a activist say:
    don't make new rules

    anti 2a communists say:
    we want w,x, y

    Anti 2a communist gets:
    W passed

    Next time anti 2a communist says:
    We want X,Y,Z

    This time they get X passed

    Each time they get another inch of the mile, but there is not really a way for a 2a activist to get back "permissions" once they are taken away. Sure, you have a few here and there, but on the whole, look at Cali, NY, NJ as prime examples. I mean, we are here in MD. Whats the likelyhood that we will be able to buy a standard 30 round mag anytime in our life?

    See, the difference between
    Anti 2a communist
    and
    2a activist
    is that the Communist only has to win one time to effect change. The 2a crew has to win every single time just to keep their freedoms. I can't figure any way that it can be different. I'm being dead on serious. Does anyone have any ideas on how you effect change to literally "keep things from changing"?

    Honestly I think the only way this will ever stop is if the US Supreme Court has a ruling that puts an end to the charade.

    The progressives are winning the culture war.
     

    TheOriginalMexicanBob

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    Jul 2, 2017
    32,158
    Sun City West, AZ
    We have the facts on our side...we have the law on our side...we have the Constitution on our side. The Liberal Left has emotion on their side and a willing and compliant media to shill for them. That makes it very difficult to overcome their emotional arguments when facts don't mean much anymore.
     

    pcfixer

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    May 24, 2009
    5,947
    Marylandstan
    When a transaction takes place between unlicensed persons who reside in the same State, the GCA does not require any record keeping. An unlicensed person may sell a firearm to another unlicensed person in his or her State of residence and, similarly, an unlicensed person may buy a firearm from another unlicensed person who resides in the same State. It is not necessary under Federal law for a Federal firearms licensee (FFL) to assist in the sale or transfer when the buyer and seller are “same–State” residents.

    https://www.atf.gov/questions-and-a...edures-should-be-followed-when-two-unlicensed

    Do you really think changing the ATF will get thru senate and president signature?
     

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