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Old June 13th, 2019, 08:24 PM #1
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Need help identifying some older rifles...

Hello all,

Relative of a friend reached out to me on some rifles that were passed down after his father's passing. This person is not particularly into guns and is wondering what they are and the estimated value. Before you ask, yes, I'm going to try talk them into keeping them in the family, but not sure how successful I'll be...

None of these rifles are modern or "run of the mill", so I'm a little out of my wheelhouse. Appears to be a lot of older bolt guns, some which are military (VZ 24, Swedish Mauser) and some appear to have been unfortunately sporterized (pretty sure one of them is an Arisaka). I've been able to identify some of them but others I just don't know from the pictures. Pretty sure all of them fall into the C&R category

Would appreciate any input you have on identification and estimated value. I'll create separate posts for each rifle. Will probably be ~10 in total.

Hopefully this will be fun for some of you... I know I had fun running down some of the ones that I could based on their markings.
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Old June 13th, 2019, 08:29 PM #2
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First Rifle:

This is one that I really have no idea on - it almost looks like some kind of sporterized military bolt gun but I could definitely be wrong. Probably something obvious that I'm missing on trying to figure it out...





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Looks like a sporterized M1903 Springfield. The discolored area on the barrel ahead of the receiver ring was where the old sight collar was.
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Sure looks like a 1903 to me
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Old June 13th, 2019, 09:12 PM #7
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Looks like a sporterized M1903 Springfield. The discolored area on the barrel ahead of the receiver ring was where the old sight collar was.
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Sure looks like a 1903 to me
Ha, I think that you two are right!!! Of course, I missed what should have probably been an obvious one.

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Any markings?
The only marking I have is the SN. Since it's not my rifle, I'm hesitant to put the full SN out there.

Here is a PIC of partial SN. Based on some googling, it looks like a 1918 manufacture year?



Anyone feel comfortable putting a value on it? Auction houses show a wide range... lots of nicer looking ones in the $500+ range but they appear to be much later date of manufacture. Not sure how much that impacts value.

Man, such a shame that this was sporterized...
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I'd hazard 400 for a sporterized one
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All depends on the quality , and if has provenance to well known 'smith .
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C stock sent to Valhalla long ago. Drilled and tapped for rear aperture sight. Could be some interesting things associated with any remaining marks on the stock or barrel that cant be seen in the pics. Good deer gun now as long as the drill and tap is solid.
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