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Old March 12th, 2018, 05:34 PM #1
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Trump Supports Confiscation

I'm a yuuuge Trump supporter but I'm very concerned about this move. I understand the Presidents thinking but I see government abuse on the horizon when this country has another leftist in power. Damn

Trump White House Declares Support for California-Style Gun Confiscation Orders

The Trump White House released policy papers Monday declaring full support for California-style firearm confiscation orders.

Breitbart News has a copy of the release and it urges states to adopt Extreme Risk Protection Orders (ERPOs). Such orders allow firearms to be confiscated with a judge’s approval.

The White House suggests that ERPOs “allow law enforcement, with approval from a court, to remove firearms from individuals who are a demonstrated threat to themselves or others and temporarily to prevent individuals from purchasing new firearms.” They stressed that the orders “should be carefully tailored to ensure the due process rights of law-abiding citizens are protected.”

California adopted similar gun confiscation laws in 2015 and Southern California Public Radio reports that 190 orders requiring confiscation were issued 2016-2017 alone.

Florida Gov. Rick Scott (R) signed California-style confiscation orders into law on Friday and the White House is urging other states to follow suit.

On March 1, 2018, Vice President Mike Pence took pains to focus on the need to guard “due process” in issuing ERPOs. Trump responded to Pence’s statement by saying, “Or, Mike, take the firearms first, and then go to court.”
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Breitbart is the National Enquirer of the political world. Steve Bannon does not have a great track record.
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Old March 12th, 2018, 06:10 PM #3
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Breitbart is the National Enquirer of the political world. Steve Bannon does not have a great track record.
Steve Bannon got the boot from Breitbart months ago and has nothing to do with the site. Unfortunately this is solid information.
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I think this already happens when someone is a threat to themselves or others. I know several occasions where the Sheriff has removed firearms from someone who was a threat (sent to hospital for evaluation). One time the Sheriff took the firearms to a relatives house for safe keeping.
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Steve Bannon got the boot from Breitbart months ago and has nothing to do with the site. Unfortunately this is solid information.
His lackeys are still there.

This headline was simply clickbait.
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Seems everyone has already forgotten Trump told us clearly his stance on the subject when he said "take the firearms first, then go to court"

I'm a Trump supporter but that kind of thinking is very dangerous and scares the hell out of me

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Seems to me if a judge thinks that a person is a threat to themselves or others, the person should be removed from the public, which means they will not have access during that time. Then when a doctor releases that person from the mental hospital, or from jail, by the police...then that person is considered no longer a threat to themselves or others....Am I missing something? Isn't that better due process?
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I can see the police taking firearms for a person who is in questionable state however, I doubt they would be given to a relative. At least not in Maryland. This is just my opinion and not based upon any fact. The key here is having due process to be relieved of any property.

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I think this already happens when someone is a threat to themselves or others. I know several occasions where the Sheriff has removed firearms from someone who was a threat (sent to hospital for evaluation). One time the Sheriff took the firearms to a relatives house for safe keeping.
You are correct, my issue is this gives momentum to the wrong people.

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His lackeys are still there.

This headline was simply clickbait.
Not an accurate description of Breitbart and it's likely far more conservative then the group here on MDS. It's all good however, no static here.
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He's loosing my support real fast.
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