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Old March 14th, 2018, 12:23 AM #181
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They’re trying to get this done by Monday. That’s the crossover deadline (though the MGA can manipulate time and the rules can be suspended whenever).
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Heard there may be additional amendments or this was just time to "vet" the current amendment and get it printed for everyone in the house.
Is it their intent to go after machine guns or simply a consequence of ignorance
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Is it their intent to go after machine guns or simply a consequence of ignorance
That I do not know. Like I said. Could be time to add additional amendment or just time to print the current amendment for the House to vote on it.
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I'm half tempted to email the sponsor (who someone said actually replies) to essentially plead for a change to the language.

Of course making them aware may just make it worse.

There's no winning.
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So they intend to make people destroy or give up property that has significant value come October 1, 2018 without providing compensation?

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At least they defined a bump stock correctly.

Seems to me (many?) transferable machine guns will be BANNED after Oct 1 2018 because they included "burst trigger systems" (or maybe Oct 1 2019 if one applied for the NFA stamp after Oct 1 2018 and got authorization before Oct 1 2019).

Looks to me as though someone with actual firearms knowledge helped them with this.
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Good luck primarying Republicans on this. Machine guns and bump stocks are not a voting issue, and Trump and a lot of prominent Republicans already gave air support for this. NRA already paved the way too. I won't be surprised to see a lot of Republicans vote for this to give Hogan cover. Look at it this way, a lot of Republicans in FL just voted for a complete shotgun/rifle ban for 18-20 year olds.

The bill is pretty specific, and atypically crystal clear for a MD gun grab. Pretty clear that the sponsors had help from someone who knows their stuff. Unfortunately it looks like we got nothing for this.
You don't do our community any good advising the ANTIs who read this forum that the language of their bills is accurate, or a mess, or not defined well, or well crafted by someone with actual firearms knowledge.

We are fortunate to have some pretty sharp people working on our side AT THE HEARINGS AND IN THE HALLWAYS, but let's not complicate the real work that is going on.

If you believe you have a brilliant formulation, please PM it to MDS member Esqappellate (a veteran DOJ litigator and MSI President) or appear in person at the hearings to impart strategy to him, or those of us who are there for every session or hearing that has a gun bill.

Please realize that radio silence regarding on an "open channel" like this with 72 hours to go is important. Don't help our opponents write their bill.

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So they intend to make people destroy or give up property that has significant value come October 1, 2018 without providing compensation?

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I can tell you that the Democrats are not currently considering compensation--as the "takings" clause of the Maryland Constitution stipulates-- for property that is taken because Judiciary Vice Chair Kathleen Dumais announced that it is her belief that the "compensation for property" alludes to real estate only.
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That new language is very, very tight. They know it, I suspect. I think someone from our side would do well to consider how to write an amednment exempting bona fide machineguns from this verbiage - easiest thing to do would be to exempt firearms and devices manufactured before 1987, since this includes the entire corpus of transferable machineguns, and to my knowledge, there were few-to-none of the bumpstocks/Hellfires/cranks in usage in that timeframe.
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You don't do our community any good advising the ANTIs who read this forum that the language of their bills is accurate, or a mess, or not defined well, or well crafted by someone with actual firearms knowledge.
There are items mentioned in this bill that have not been mentioned in public forums. Cant recall them being mentioned in testimony either. They are definitely not getting it from MDS.
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There are items mentioned in this bill that have not been mentioned in public forums. Cant recall them being mentioned in testimony either. They are definitely not getting it from MDS.
I wonder if they are getting it from the office of Anti 2A AG or even from the anti Frosh himself? What are the chances of this ending up in court over just taking thing with out giving those just compensation?
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