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Old May 25th, 2019, 07:36 PM #11
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I use cci segmented standard velocity for what you are talking about on a similar lot. I use a can and they are quiet. They work great, but do not come close to what a high velocity cci HP mini mag will do. I use those as well and they are much more effective. I am using a 10/22 as well. The segmented hp standard velocity shoot just like the round nose, but the round nose are poor critter stoppers in my experience. Squirrels can even take one to the side and run away. Iím sure they have internal damage an die, but it isnít clean.

As others have stated, a couple loud rounds on 4 acres wonít bother anyone. Iím in Carroll county so it is legal to shoot on my property, ymmv.

Foxes may be a little optimistic for .22 clean kills unless you are confident in shot placement and are using high velocity. Velocitors or stingers will take them down with good placement, but a larger caliber would be more humane if you donít hit where you want.
Okay. Iíll think on it. Maybe keep a mag of velocitors for fox.

Thanks for the suggestions and opinions!

Too bad I canít really just use .223 (that really would be too loud, especially if I needed a follow-up shot because I missed).
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Old May 25th, 2019, 07:52 PM #12
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You can only bend the laws of physics but so far , and you will need to tweak your parameters . You need to either :

Get suppressor .
Remove requirement to cycle ( unmodified ) semiauto .
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Old May 27th, 2019, 03:48 AM #13
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The volume difference between standard velocity and high velocity is primarily the sonic "boom" standard velocity are subsonic so you don't get the "crack" sound. The CCI Quiets are loaded with less powder than the SV to reduce the noise even more by reducing muzzle blast. I have never had a problem taking groundhogs with standard velocity hollow point ammunition at appropriate ranges.

If you want to experiment you can load your own .22 rimfire because primed cases are again available. Find what is quiet enough for you but still cycles your rifle.

Primed cases, dies, and 18 gr. Colibri bullets
https://fedarm.com/product-category/ammunition/22-lr/

.22 Reloader kit - includes two sizes of bullet molds - "Powders Suggested: 700x, 7625, PB, Unique, and Pyrodex P"
https://sharpshooter-22lr-reloader.m...2-reloader-kit

They also sell dies
https://sharpshooter-22lr-reloader.m...s/products/die

30 grain bullets
https://northamericanarms.com/shop/parts/cbb2/

55 grain molds
https://www.midsouthshooterssupply.c...-point-225-dia

Hollow pointer (two sizes)
https://www.forsterproducts.com/prod...-pointer-kits/

It has been said the one grain of Bullseye works and that some people have developed accurate loads using up to 1 1/2 grains of Bullseye. Other people are getting excellent accuracy by breach seating bullets and then inserting the appropriate load in a primed case.
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Old May 27th, 2019, 09:54 AM #14
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Too bad I canít really just use .223 (that really would be too loud, especially if I needed a follow-up shot because I missed).
Again, get a can.
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Old May 27th, 2019, 03:07 PM #15
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If it is legal to shoot varmints on your property, why is noise such an issue?

Sure, a lot of shooting may be uncouth, but the occasional varmint shot? Are the neighbors that uptight about it?

Just wondering. I can legally shoot as much as I want in my neighborhood. I donít out of politeness , but I wouldnít hesitate to use the shotgun or whatever implement the situation calls for to put a rabid fox down or something getting into the chicken coop.

You know your neighborhood, but thatís just my opinion.
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If it is legal to shoot varmints on your property, why is noise such an issue?

Sure, a lot of shooting may be uncouth, but the occasional varmint shot? Are the neighbors that uptight about it?

Just wondering. I can legally shoot as much as I want in my neighborhood. I don’t out of politeness , but I wouldn’t hesitate to use the shotgun or whatever implement the situation calls for to put a rabid fox down or something getting into the chicken coop.

You know your neighborhood, but that’s just my opinion.
Partly not how I was raised (raised by liberal hoplaphobes). Partly just worried I might have a crazy neighbor who starts calling the cops on me and giving me hassles. I’ve spoken to a couple of neighbors and they are fine with it and it’s basically only been when I was at least moderately sure whatever it was posed some threat to my chickens or garden. Not going out back hunting squirrels and what not.

At this point in less than a month (and maybe I’ve thinned them so it’ll be less often) I’ve taken down two ground hogs and now a raccoon (well, maybe one ground hog. Pretty sure the 2nd whistle pig might have survived.) That is over about 6 encounters and 4 of them I took shots at them. The raccoon took 4 shots, 3 of which I am confident hit it (in the space of about a minute, not over multiple encounters).

I don’t want the neighbors getting annoyed on why they hear a gun shot or two from my property a couple of times a week.

Also probably would have been better off with solids for the raccoon with something that low velocity.
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That makes sense as to the frequency. Get a can, then you can shoot more.

High velocity .22 HP would be more effective than subsonic RN. I have many one shot kills with it on raccoons and groundhogs. Subsonic HP (cci segmented) is vastly more effective than the RN on even squirrels. Iíd avoid subsonic RN for varmints, but that has just been my experience.

Maybe use a shotgun and just fire two blasts?
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I see what you did there .
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