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Old January 24th, 2019, 11:28 AM #21
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Not to throw a hand grenade into the mix but you could imagine if the “right” to an abortion ended at your front door? Or your First Amendment rights? Why do us lucky gun types have those limits on our Rights?
Minor, your post is MAJOR.

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Old January 24th, 2019, 11:36 AM #22
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Slow your roll though! You’ve rocketed past 20 posts!


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i don't think you idea is any kind of hand grenade! i hate the term common sense, as the term has been perverted by a2a people, but what you propose is common sense.

i would liketo hear this point made very firmly in oral arguments. firmly, loudly (but not TOO), clearly, and maybe with a hint of sarcasm, for all to hear. maybe it would be a good end to an oral argument.

"you can be gay, publish a newspaper, vote, get an abortion, practice religion, etc. BUT only in your house. AND you must first get permission/ a license, get training, and be certified before you may do so."

and for NYC residents, because NYC.GOV is so nice! "we will grant you the privilege to do these things in one of 7 authorized places on the entire planet. and all 7 places happen to be near your home! damn, ain't we nice!"


just as scalia, gorsuch and thomas have said, it has become 2a=2nd class.

when you hear the talking head types go at it, the talk about "what did they mean" by some specific phrase. i would like to hear/read a clear ruling calling out the failure many of the cases.

maybe scotus has agreed to hear this case strictly because the limits are SOOO crazy and obviously bad, even the conservative justices will go along. maybe this will generate a clear majority ruling, with the opportunity to CLEARLY address things like levels of scrutiny and all those subtle things a non lawyer like me is learning about.

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Not to throw a hand grenade into the mix but you could imagine if the “right” to an abortion ended at your front door? Or your First Amendment rights? Why do us lucky gun types have those limits on our Rights?
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Old January 24th, 2019, 11:58 AM #24
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Something to consider, we don't want to rush this one to decision. RBG is 85 years old, and she has fought cancer 3 times at this point. She may not even be here when it comes down to a vote. I don't wish death on anyone, I truly don't, but at 85 years old and having been diagnosed with cancer and treated 3 separate times, there is no guarantee that she'll make it to 2020.
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If I understand Heller correctly, the court already decided that. What hasn't happened since is the appropriate spanking of tons of local laws that run up against that reality. Maybe this is one of them, maybe not.
Heller does not specifically address the issue outside the home. It talks about self defense and that it is at it maximum inside the home. While most courts seem to concede that there is some right outside the home, the extent of the right appears to be very limited. All most all restrictions are upheld. This case is yet another example.
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An editor at the Sun thinks this is a shall-issue issue and is going out of their mind! lol the usual BS about wild west shootouts and OMG open carry!
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The Sun and a similar piece in The Atlantic (by an academic in Baltimore) make a lot of hysterical noise about expanding a right. That's spin. What might happen is arbitrary restrictions on that right are removed, and the ability to make arbitrary restrictions on it is curtailed.

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If the Baltimore Sun had had an opinion on something, who would know? They are less relevant than a tailor in a nudist colony. What's their circulation now... 26?
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Not to throw a hand grenade into the mix but you could imagine if the “right” to an abortion ended at your front door? Or your First Amendment rights? Why do us lucky gun types have those limits on our Rights?


Note to self: remember this, so you can crush some dumb liberals argument in mere seconds.
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