Cody WIlson v State Department

DC-W · Jul 30, 2018

From that philly article:

Defense Distributed was making its gun plans available to anyone who obtained a membership by paying a nominal fee, according to the lawsuit filed by Shapiro and Wolf.

That couldn’t be more wrong. Anyone can download the files at no cost at all. Paid memberships thru Defense Distributed Legio are completely optional.

Blacksmith101 · Jul 30, 2018

Something Marylander's can do for Pennsylvania gun owners. We can download files and carry them across the state line when we go to PA to buy our standard capacity magazines.

daNattyFatty · Jul 30, 2018

DC-W said:
Frosh is too busy suing the President for having hotels, but I look forward to him getting bitch slapped by DD.

He should preliminarily sue for an injunction against Frosh just because!

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Hawkeye · Jul 30, 2018

PharaohF4 said:
IP address?

Yes, that's how they are doing it. It's funny, because despite what gets repeated over and over again on TV and elsewhere, there is no hard link between IP address and physical location. In some cases it's easy to figure out exactly where a computer using a given address is, but not always. There are services that geolocate IP addresses, but it's an imperfect science and all of those directories are rife with errors, but it's the only thing out there. So when something like this case comes up, you can subscribe to a service that will basically give you a big list of every address in NJ or PA or wherever, and then you can block requests from those addresses.

Adolph Oliver Bush said:
TOR?

Yup. Or any other VPN will defeat it also.

In fact, as a point of professional advice (IANAL and all that, but I am an "IT guy") if I were going to download these files, I would make sure that I was using a good VPN service that not only encrypts but anonymizes your connection and doesn't keep logs, and is based in, say..... Switzerland where they aren't subject to US law. Something like https://protonvpn.com, actually.

DC-W · Jul 30, 2018

Looking forward to PA, NJ, and Los Angeles paying for these files being distributed in their territories.

light12pdr · Jul 30, 2018

Ya know.... why is all the legal weight on DD? Even though the files are available for free download, shouldn't the onus be on the citizens of NJ or LA to NOT download the files or manufacture the guns if they are illegal in their jurisdictions?

Hawkeye · Jul 30, 2018

light12pdr said:
Ya know.... why is all the legal weight on DD? Even though the files are available for free download, shouldn't the onus be on the citizens of NJ or LA to NOT download the files or manufacture the guns if they are illegal in their jurisdictions?

Yes.

However, that's not going to stop guys like Grewal and the others from trying to bury DD under the weight of spurious lawsuits in order to allow themselves to climb up and do some grandstanding.

krucam · Jul 30, 2018

You can google how to make a pressure cooker bomb, fertilizer bomb, etc...one can make an auto-sear. Because I have a hacksaw doesn't mean I will SBR one of my rifles..

light12pdr · Jul 30, 2018

krucam said:
You can google how to make a pressure cooker bomb, fertilizer bomb, etc...one can make an auto-sear. Because I have a hacksaw doesn't mean I will SBR one of my rifles..

Zackly!

txcat · Jul 30, 2018

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/3...torney-general-cody-wilson-ar15-20180730.html

Defense Distributed, the Texas nonprofit that generated the printer plans, has agreed “to refrain from posting new information and to block all information from being accessed in Pennsylvania,” according to an order from Judge Paul S. Diamond filed Monday morning.

The attorney general’s office must file an amended complaint and motion for an injunction by 5 p.m. Monday, the order said.

The files for making guns with a 3D printer are set to be published online by Defense Distributed by Wednesday, thanks to a State Department settlement ending a years-long ban on their publication. At least one plan, for an AR-15, was uploaded to the group’s website Friday for download, causing controversy nationwide.

krucam · Jul 30, 2018

Once the AR-15 files (CNC and 3D) are out of the bottle its over. It doesn't matter where you live, they will be distributed like wild fire and will be easily obtained.

swinokur · Jul 30, 2018

AR 15 torrents?

Ha!

krucam · Jul 30, 2018

More AG's coming after Cody...

https://twitter.com/Radomysisky/status/1024001397535076352

DC-W · Jul 30, 2018

swinokur said:
AR 15 torrents?

Ha!

They're already out there.

DC-W · Jul 30, 2018

FROSH IS DOING IT
https://twitter.com/BrianFrosh/status/1024002600918761472

Our federal government is allowing anyone armed with a computer and a printer to make and distribute guns, jeopardizing the safety of all Americans. We have filed suit to prevent that from happening.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2018/07/30/3d-printed-guns-jones-pkg-vpx.cnn

Occam · Jul 30, 2018

Our federal government is allowing anyone armed with a computer and a printer to make and distribute guns

In what way, Frosh, does the new settlement in ANY way change a person's ability to legally distribute guns? He's knowingly, deliberately lying.

DC-W · Jul 30, 2018

Coverage from WJLA
http://wjla.com/news/nation-world/dc-maryland-trump-administration-3d-guns

Judge shopping

The suit, to be filed Monday in Seattle, asks for an order to block the federal government from lifting its ban on the gun plans and to prevent the company, Defense Distributed, from continuing to make the blueprints available on the Internet.

Democratic officials in Washington, Massachusetts, Connecticut, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Oregon, Maryland, New York and the District of Columbia are behind the suit.

krucam · Jul 30, 2018

I don’t have them, but we should come up with ways to flood the world with these files that have been out for 5 years. Fvck these people. Moot their case.

DC-W · Jul 30, 2018

Mor coverage from Reuters.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...line-guns-idUSKBN1KK269?utm_source=reddit.com

The original pack of files is still available in plenty of places.

DC-W · Jul 30, 2018

Associated Press coverage
https://apnews.com/0337401e6cf04ad8a84dcc2b96f9c6d2

This is going to be wild.

Oh, and Josh Blackman is a G

The company filed its own suit in Texas on Sunday, asserting that it's the victim of an "ideologically-fueled program of intimidation and harassment" that violates the company's First Amendment rights.

The company's attorney, Josh Blackman, called it an "easy case."

States are free to enact gun control measures, but "what they can't do is censor the speech of another citizen in another state, and they can't regulate the commerce of another citizen in another state when that commerce is authorized by a federal government license," Blackman said in an interview Monday. "It's a violation of the First Amendment, it's unconscionable and we're going to fight it to the very end."

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