Russian Ballistic knife.

Maxsplat · Apr 7, 2016

Are these legal in MD?

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=551560347

I thought these were just some call of duty myth. Didn't actually think they were real.

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FrankOceanXray · Apr 7, 2016

It has to be illegal.. it is too cool.

Roneut · Apr 7, 2016

State law: Illegal to sell or offer for sale. Legal to own, legal to carry openly. Illegal to conceal.
http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/2015RS/Statute_Web/gcr/4-105.pdf

Federal law: They are illegal to import into the United States or sell over state lines, just like switchblades. The seller is in Poland, so even if by some fluke it clears customs, you would have committed a federal crime by importing it.
http://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim-title15-section1245&num=0&edition=prelim

Yes, they are categorically a real weapon, just extremely rare. However they are primarily known about because of the novelty, and in practice are little more than goofy toys. The blade lacks any kind of aerodynamic or gyroscopic stabilization, so that one shot you get is a roll of the dice on whether it lands point first. It wasn't the ban that make them fade into obscurity; it's the fact that they suck.

Mr. Ed · Apr 7, 2016

Gee, after looking at the pictures, it seems like it would be easy enough to make one from readily available parts. As others have said, it's not likely to be very useful as a weapon, but might be fun for the cool factor in the backyard popping balloons. As in, "Here, hold my beer while I launch this." :lol2:

Roneut · Apr 7, 2016

R56 Ed said:
Gee, after looking at the pictures, it seems like it would be easy enough to make one from readily available parts. As others have said, it's not likely to be very useful as a weapon, but might be fun for the cool factor in the backyard popping balloons. As in, "Here, hold my beer while I launch this."

And that would be perfectly legal.

WeaponsCollector · Apr 11, 2016

I believe the legal problems come with shipping the knife with the spring(I could be wrong, not a lawyer) so these sellers in other countries will often sell or ship the knife and the spring separately.
Here's a video showing how it works, the spring really is so strong that you have to use your body weight to push it down far enough to lock it in place...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrlzBj2lIJg

Mr. Ed · Apr 11, 2016

WeaponsCollector said:
I believe the legal problems come with shipping the knife with the spring(I could be wrong, not a lawyer) so these sellers in other countries will often sell or ship the knife and the spring separately.
Here's a video showing how it works, the spring really is so strong that you have to use your body weight to push it down far enough to lock it in place...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrlzBj2lIJg

Damn, that's cool. I'd like to have one of those in the end of a walking stick.

Qbeam · Apr 11, 2016

glistam said:
State law: Illegal to sell or offer for sale. Legal to own, legal to carry openly. Illegal to conceal.
http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/2015RS/Statute_Web/gcr/4-105.pdf

Federal law: They are illegal to import into the United States or sell over state lines, just like switchblades. The seller is in Poland, so even if by some fluke it clears customs, you would have committed a federal crime by importing it.
http://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim-title15-section1245&num=0&edition=prelim

Yes, they are categorically a real weapon, just extremely rare. However they are primarily known about because of the novelty, and in practice are little more than goofy toys. The blade lacks any kind of aerodynamic or gyroscopic stabilization, so that one shot you get is a roll of the dice on whether it lands point first. It wasn't the ban that make them fade into obscurity; it's the fact that they suck.

If I read the regulations correctly, I could go to a gun show outside of MD, purchase one, and still be legal? Similar to our current magazine law? Or does the interstate commerce clause come into effect?

Q

Roneut · Apr 11, 2016

Qbeam said:
If I read the regulations correctly, I could go to a gun show outside of MD, purchase one, and still be legal? Similar to our current magazine law? Or does the interstate commerce clause come into effect?

Q

In my opinion and according to case-law I've read a long while back, that would be legal. The same would apply to autos and firearm magazines, and here's why: If the transaction takes place in-person in a state where the sale and purchase are legal, the "commerce" is then concluded right then at the seller's booth. From then on you are merely the "owner/possessor" of the knife/magazine, which are legal in MD, and taking it home is simply transport of personal property, not commerce.

Blaster229 · Apr 12, 2016

That thing is scary, neat, and dangerous all at the same time. LOL

llkoolkeg · Apr 12, 2016

Purely a novelty. I'd much rather have a real bladed weapon than that thing. In fact, I'd rather have a real shuriken than that thing.

HordesOfKailas · Apr 12, 2016

llkoolkeg said:
Purely a novelty. I'd much rather have a real bladed weapon than that thing. In fact, I'd rather have a real shuriken than that thing.

I'd rather have one of these:

http://www.amazon.com/Cold-Steel-Torpedo-Rolled-handle/dp/B000BT1G4O?tag=gdextf-20

Oh wait, I do! They're killer. A strong and skilled thrower can get it lodged real deep in a piece of wood at maybe 15 feet.

I still would love a ballistic knife though.

omegared24 · Apr 12, 2016

llkoolkeg said:
Purely a novelty. I'd much rather have a real bladed weapon than that thing. In fact, I'd rather have a real shuriken than that thing.

Definitely not a novelty. It was on an episode of Deadliest Warrior and used in combat.

llkoolkeg · Apr 12, 2016

omegared24 said:
Definitely not a novelty. It was on an episode of Deadliest Warrior and used in combat.

And while we're on the topic of novelties...

omegared24 · Apr 13, 2016

llkoolkeg said:
And while we're on the topic of novelties...

Can't argue with that :thumbsup:

WeaponsCollector · Apr 24, 2016

Here's two of the most commonly available styles of ballistic knives.

engineerbrian · Apr 24, 2016

Those are awesome WC. I didn't realize they were good to go in MD

Has everyone seen the thread and video that Engage and Wayne1 did? Pretty bad ass!

http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?p=4318142#post4318142

WeaponsCollector · Apr 28, 2016

Very nice, now I want one.

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