Different / Unique / Oddball Short Barrel NFA item since eForms Form 1s are back

Slim · Nov 27, 2018

The recent return of Form 1 submissions to eForms, and the quick turnaround rate (sounds like about 2 weeks right now) I'm tempted to make another short-barreled thing (SBT). I already have, or am building:

SBR AR15 (centerfire & rimfire)
SBR 10/22 & 10/22 Takedown
SBR Glock
SBR H&K MP5
SBS 870

So I totally don't need this new "thing". :lol2:

But those stamps are coming back so quick to people on AR15.com! There seem to be lots of "ready to Form 1" firearms out there on the market right now. Centerfire semiautomatics are a real PIA in Maryland with the 29+" rule (reference the H&K extendo-stock threads here) but something rimfire, or manual-action would be exempt from that. I did some quick math on a Ruger PC Carbine SBR, and I'd only be able to chop about 5" of barrel off of it.

Not considering any SBRs based on the AR15, H&K, 10/22, 15-22 or other semiauto plaforms. But maybe the Remington Model 700CP bolt-action pistol, since it would be easy to add a stock after getting a Form 1 back with a stamp. What other "NFA-Ready" firearms are out there that would just require non-gunsmith mods after paying your $200?

Slim · Nov 27, 2018

Remington Model 700 "Chassis Pistol". Comes chambered in .308, .223, or 300BLK.

Slim · Nov 27, 2018

MSPaint of hypothetical 29" Ruger PC Carbine SBR

Poor-mans Photoshop (MS Paint) of hypothetical 29" Ruger PC Carbine SBR:

outrider58 · Nov 28, 2018

Nooooo!

Must.....re.......sist..............

Hawkeye · Nov 28, 2018

Slim said:
Remington Model 700 "Chassis Pistol". Comes chambered in .308, .223, or 300BLK.

There was a thread over in /r/nfa on Reddit recently where a guy was building what looked like a pretty cool Rem700 SBR. That might be a neat option, especially if you have a good suppressor to run on it.

I have been tempted very hard by the SIG MPX recently. Good thing I don't have the cash...

Slim · Nov 28, 2018

outrider58 said:
Nooooo!

Must.....re.......sist..............

Haha,

are you encouraging me to resist? Or realizing that your own resistance is, in fact, futile? :lol2:

outrider58 · Nov 28, 2018

Slim said:
Haha, are you encouraging me to resist? Or realizing that your own resistance is, in fact, futile? 2:

The latter. How many SBRs does one man need? I can only shoot one at a time!!!

Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk

Slim · Nov 28, 2018

Hawkeye said:
There was a thread over in /r/nfa on Reddit recently where a guy was building what looked like a pretty cool Rem700 SBR. That might be a neat option, especially if you have a good suppressor to run on it.

I'll take a look at that one. If I went that route, it would mean a new caliber for me (.300BLK) but it does seem to suppress well.

Hawkeye said:
I have been tempted very hard by the SIG MPX recently. Good thing I don't have the cash...

That would be a completely new platform, mags, manual of arms, etc., that I'm trying to avoid.

Upside though, is that MDS member schnejerator has already cracked the code on how to get the 29" length requirement, and it's much easier than an H&K: https://www.mdshooters.com/showpost.php?p=4893360&postcount=84

Maybe even more oddball than that? :confused:

Hawkeye · Nov 28, 2018

I've always wanted a Benelli M1S90 SBS.

Fortunately or unfortunately, the way to go for one of those is to find LEO surplus ones and buy them on a Form 4, because you can often find them for the $700 or so range, which is much cheaper than SBS'ing an existing normal one.

Slim · Nov 28, 2018

Hawkeye said:
I've always wanted a Benelli M1S90 SBS.

Fortunately or unfortunately, the way to go for one of those is to find LEO surplus ones and buy them on a Form 4, because you can often find them for the $700 or so range, which is much cheaper than SBS'ing an existing normal one.

I am tempted to do another SBS with one of the Remington TAC-13 semiautos.

Slim · Nov 28, 2018

outrider58 said:
The latter. How many SBRs does one man need? I can only shoot one at a time!!!

Well yeah, with that attitude...

FrankOceanXray · Nov 28, 2018

PS90.

erwos · Nov 28, 2018

Slim said:
SBR Glock

I'd like to hear how you're going to get that Glock OAL to 29"+ without using a ~16" barrel. I did one pre-ban for fun, and it's rad, but I'd never bother with it now.

That said, I would absolutely love to do a suppressed urban-counter-sniper build off a 308 Rem 700 pistol with a folding stock.

outrider58 · Nov 28, 2018

Slim said:
Well yeah, with that attitude...

I meant, I already have four.

Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk

Slim · Nov 28, 2018

erwos said:
I'd like to hear how you're going to get that Glock OAL to 29"+ without using a ~16" barrel. I did one pre-ban for fun, and it's rad, but I'd never bother with it now.

Not pretty, quite cumbersome, but not difficult. Here: Going to great lengths for a MD-legal Glock SBR

erwos said:
That said, I would absolutely love to do a suppressed urban-counter-sniper build off a 308 Rem 700 pistol with a folding stock.

That'd be a good one. With no recoil system any of the folding gizmos like the Law Tactical adapter would work.

engineerbrian · Nov 28, 2018

I didnt realize form 1’s were coming back that fast. It makes me want to go out and buy a lever gun to chop and thread

FrankOceanXray · Nov 28, 2018

https://www.atfonline.gov/EformsOutage/

OUTAGE.

ATF eForms is unavailable between 4:00 am and 6:00 pm Eastern Time.

May go ahead with the PS90 SBR. A two week turnaround is too good after waiting months for Form 4.

Slim · Nov 28, 2018

engineerbrian said:
I didnt realize form 1’s were coming back that fast. It makes me want to go out and buy a lever gun to chop and thread

Short lever guns are pretty cool. If I went that route, I'd probably buy a "Mare's Leg" type thing and get a stock for it. Seems like less work than shortening a barrel, re-attaching a sight, and shortening a mag tube.

Slim · Nov 28, 2018

FrankOceanXray said:
https://www.atfonline.gov/EformsOutage/
OUTAGE.
ATF eForms is unavailable between 4:00 am and 6:00 pm Eastern Time.
May go ahead with the PS90 SBR. A two week turnaround is too good after waiting months for Form 4.

When I was doing the "old" eForms, circa 2014-2016, Wednesday was the "usual" outage/upgrade/maintenance day. FWIW.

engineerbrian · Nov 28, 2018

Slim said:
Short lever guns are pretty cool. If I went that route, I'd probably buy a "Mare's Leg" type thing and get a stock for it. Seems like less work than shortening a barrel, re-attaching a sight, and shortening a mag tube.

True. I wonder if that hits the 29” mark with a stock?

Different / Unique / Oddball Short Barrel NFA item since eForms Form 1s are back

The #1 community for Gun Owners of the Northeast

Member Benefits:

Active Member

Active Member

Attachments

Active Member

Attachments

Eats Bacon Raw

The Leatherstocking

Active Member

Eats Bacon Raw

Active Member

The Leatherstocking

Active Member

Active Member

Ultimate Member

The Hebrew Hammer

Eats Bacon Raw

Active Member

JMB fan club

Attachments

Ultimate Member

Active Member

Attachments

Active Member

JMB fan club

Users who are viewing this thread

Log in

Forum statistics