PSA: Do civilians with guns ever stop mass shootings?

Mossyoak · Oct 10, 2015

Not to mention that in a lot of cases the mentally ill attacker turns the gun on himself when a good guy with a gun shows up.

BigSteve57 · Oct 10, 2015

I keep recalling the gut wrenching testimony of Suzanna Gratia Hupp.
I just never get over it.
What if she had been armed?
This could happen to me, my wife or any one of us.
It makes me want to scream.

[YT]M1u0Byq5Qis[/YT]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=M1u0Byq5Qis

Southwest Chuck · Oct 10, 2015

krucam said:
Fixed for more clarity.

Calguns had another good one, I'm paraphrasing. If one in every 20 ducks could shoot back, nobody would go hunting.

If I'm not mistaken, that came from one of the Plaintiffs during oral arguments in Peruta when it was at the District level. I believe the original quote was:

“If 5% OF THE DUCKS SHOOT BACK, “NO ONE” WOULD GO DUCK HUNTING”

Mightydog · Oct 10, 2015

krucam said:
Fixed for more clarity.

Calguns had another good one, I'm paraphrasing. If one in every 20 ducks could shoot back, nobody would go hunting.

In the latest case, the shooter had a weapon in his car. The school said guns can be in cars in locked compartments in designated parking lots. Seems this Ahole went back to his car after an altercation, retrieved his gun and "wham". If someone wants to they will always find a way.

Inigoes · Oct 10, 2015

The CCer who tackled the Gabby Giffords gunmam because he was afraid of friendly fire.

llkoolkeg · Oct 10, 2015

hodgepodge said:
Posted on a lib 'acquiantance's' Facebook page. Sad.

But I need the one line comeback. Maybe that one kid would think twice if everyone had rocks.

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A kid on the playground throws a rock at another kid on the playground.
The teacher bans recess for all of the kids since, after all, punishing the good kids along with the bad kid will help them to see that the bad kid really isn’t bad, he’s just misunderstood and needs his classmates to give him a hug and half their lunch money so that he can then buy marbles to play with instead of rocks.

llkoolkeg · Oct 10, 2015

A kid on the playground throws a rock at another kid on the playground.
The teacher wisely enacts a rock-free zone throughout the schoolyard since, after all, if there had only been a sign present specifically indicating that throwing rocks at fellow students is not permitted, it would have never occurred in the first place.

llkoolkeg · Oct 10, 2015

A kid on the playground throws a rock at another kid on the playground.
The teacher subsequently recommends paving over the playground in cement since, after all, if rocks were no longer present along with pine-cones, acorns or clumps of grass, there wouldn’t be anything present and enticing for kids to throw at their classmates.

Shall I go on?

JPG · Oct 10, 2015

krucam said:
We should collect these stories. Having them scattered about is great, but it would be good to set up a site similar to the anti's, ie Shooting Tracker.

http://shootingtracker.com/wiki/Main_Page

The NRA has an "Armed Citizen" page that has stories of people using a gun to protect themselves.

https://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/armed-citizen.aspx

jasonk1229 · Oct 10, 2015

iH8DemLibz said:
Gun Free Zones are here to stay. Regrettably. Because people with guns, in their minds, are lower than whale crap. We're not welcome in their world.

And each side is so entrenched right now that no middle ground will ever be reached and BHO knows it.

We are right. They are right. Stalemate!

There is only one way to break a stalemate.

that's so insane as they would say make common sense changes and this is not even on the table or talked about

BeoBill · Oct 10, 2015

Arcamm said:
So we should insist that owners of "gun free zones" carry massacre insurance.

Not a bad idea. Or even better, sue for purposely maintaining a dangerous location.

I remember reading about a somewhat similar situation in a security trade magazine years ago. The had a regular section on notable legal actions affecting the profession. This was back when well lit parking lots were not commonplace. There was a series of very large wins in lawsuits by women who were attacked in dark parking lots. Poof! Suddenly you were hard pressed to find a dark shopping center lot.

marcusrn · Oct 11, 2015

Southwest Chuck said:
If I'm not mistaken, that came from one of the Plaintiffs during oral arguments in Peruta when it was at the District level. I believe the original quote was:

“If 5% OF THE DUCKS SHOOT BACK, “NO ONE” WOULD GO DUCK HUNTING”

That gem came from Chuck Michel to Federal District Court Judge Irma Gonzales. He is and was the NRA attorney for Peruta Vs SD Sheriff against 5 individual plantiffs and one institutional (CRPA) plaintiff.

He brought the house down and the judge appeared impressed, at least at that moment.

Proud Peruta co plaintiff,
Mark Cleary

pilotguy · Oct 11, 2015

press1280 said:
Private establishments can still make their own rules.

I will never understand this line of thinking. If self defense is a fundamental right then it is equal to other fundamental rights. So since a private establishment cannot refuse service because of gender, for example, that same establishment should not be able to refuse service because of a person's right to self defense.

redeemed.man · Oct 11, 2015

pilotguy said:
I will never understand this line of thinking. If self defense is a fundamental right then it is equal to other fundamental rights. So since a private establishment cannot refuse service because of gender, for example, that same establishment should not be able to refuse service because of a person's right to self defense.

Exactly, WTF, the .gov can force a Christian to bake a cake to recognize a right that is not enumerated in COTUS but they can't give me a pass for carrying gun (an enumerated right) into a business that serves the general public?

Southwest Chuck · Oct 14, 2015

marcusrn said:
That gem came from Chuck Michel to Federal District Court Judge Irma Gonzales. He is and was the NRA attorney for Peruta Vs SD Sheriff against 5 individual plantiffs and one institutional (CRPA) plaintiff.

He brought the house down and the judge appeared impressed, at least at that moment.

Proud Peruta co plaintiff,
Mark Cleary

Thanks Mr. Cleary. You and the other Plaintiffs are all Patriots. Thank you for standing up for our 2A rights. As I recall, that quote caused quite a stir amongst the people in attendance, but I couldn't specifically recall who said it.

redeemed.man · Oct 26, 2015

Armed bar employee shoots robbery suspect

Link:
http://www.abc2news.com/news/crime-checker/baltimore-city-crime/armed-bar-employee-shoots-robber

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