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Old April 15th, 2018, 08:45 AM #91
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Here's the article in the Capital Gazette. The quote from Gov. Hogan's Spokeswoman does not warm the cockles of my heart:
“The governor has always supported common-sense policies to keep firearms out of the hands of individuals with mental illnesses or violent criminal backgrounds who could pose a danger to themselves and others,” said spokeswoman Amelia Chasse in an email.

She said “our legislative team worked closely with members of both houses to ensure that proper due process was included in the legislation,” such as an evidentiary standard to issue a lethal violence protective order and a chance for the gun owner to address the petition against him or her.
Those quotes could be taken either way.

They come across as more positive than negative. .02

Hogan still has a chance to do the right thing for all of Maryland's citizens.
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Since due process isnt included BEFORE the weapons are seized could that mean he will veto it ?? (Wishful thinking ???)

At the bar I was at last night they were talking guns and I brought this POS up those they knew about it (supposedly gun owners) thought it was a good bill . Once I explained it in layman terms what potential this bill could have they were appalled and said they would email Hogan . The best response I got was the guy said I am from Delaware so we are good . Told him to go see what his legislators are up too .

Think the pot is at 190
So with that, what do you think the majority of voters believe?
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Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

hell no.

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So with that, what do you think the majority of voters believe. Getting to the point where the Roman Centurion points at the Barbarians, and asks his Prefect, "Don't these people know when they are conquered?"
Sorry, Surrender Monkeys, garnering major media coverage of the RED FLAG bill yesterday was the tactical victory our side needed to ratchet up the pressure.

The Baltimore Sun is THE "paper of record" in Maryland for the Governor and his people, and if this goes the way we planned it, they will be getting inquires from other press outlets to demand an explanation for who is right: The Gov. or the people participating in protest events against the RED FLAG bill who are quoted in the Sun.
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So with that, what do you think the majority of voters believe. Getting to the point where the Roman Centurion points at the Barbarians, and asks his Prefect, "Don't these people know when they are conquered?"
That is our job. To tell them the truth about this and all the BS they pass as you know the politicians sure as hell wont tell them the truth
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Ed Zachary,. As Bluto stated, it's not over until we say it is.

And it will never be over until we prevail.

However long that may take.
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Also, we have a slew of great pictures to put up later to acknowledge the excellent Patriot Activists who made the March & Rally possible.

I am going to name names of the fine folks who helped us get this issue into the Baltimore Sun to give us this chance!

With Patriot Picket press releases going to more than a dozen media outlets, we SUCCEEDED in getting a warning shot across Hogan's bow. (Don't make me quote Teddy Roosevelt's "In The Arena" speech)

So, pictures and kudos up soon for our folks responding yesterday--as many I can possibly identify-- but first, I am headed out to church.
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I redacted the metaphor. Why people get so bent is beyond me. Hogan can Veto the Bill. Better?
I'm just going with odds, and no I'm not wagering $ on it. How many Gun Control Bills in Maryland have been Veto'd?
Hogan is on record supporting a law like this. It's like the initial Day One mantra, when Hogan is on record "We're not changing current gun laws"

All the Republican delegates voting for it, then against it were pandering to Republican majority electorates in their area. No way in hell do I believe all those R delegates had some evolution the Bill didn't hold up to Constitutional or legal muster all of a sudden. That would be one group of attorneys I hope I never happened to hire. They count on handfuls of votes and switched for votes, Hogan does not have the luxury of a Republican majority electorate.
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So with that, what do you think the majority of voters believe. Getting to the point where the Roman Centurion points at the Barbarians, and asks his Prefect, "Don't these people know when they are conquered?"
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I redacted the metaphor. Why people get so bent is beyond me. Hogan can Veto the Bill. Better?
I'm just going with odds, and no I'm not wagering $ on it. How many Gun Control Bills in Maryland have been Veto'd?
Hogan is on record supporting a law like this. It's like the initial Day One mantra, when Hogan is on record "We're not changing current gun laws"

All the Republican delegates voting for it, then against it were pandering to Republican majority electorates in their area. No way in hell do I believe all those R delegates had some evolution the Bill didn't hold up to Constitutional or legal muster all of a sudden. That would be one group of attorneys I hope I never happened to hire. They count on handfuls of votes and switched for votes, Hogan does not have the luxury of a Republican majority electorate.
We get bent about Roman Emperor quotes because we put a lot of sweat equity into keeping this issue alive--and now alive in the Sun "paper of record".

Sorry if you've been run over by the Believers Bandwagon.

Seriously, 2A in Maryland doesn't get very far with Emperor quotes from the White Flag Brigade.

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Smigiel commented today Hogan is already cooked, as in gone.

I look what happened in Virginia as one clue. I look at Trump's favorable rating to Maryland voters as another. The Dems this time out really get to choose their candidate. More Dems will vote next election, and if the minority voters get out, put a fork in it.
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Maine I read pulled 600 to their rally. Maryland would need ~3,000 to match in ratio.
With frenemies like this.....

Sad, but if I was an ANTI trying to drain energy from our 2A side while this veto is still in play, your Emperor quote and these other quotes above would be exactly what I would be dropping into MDshooters.
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We get bent about Roman Emperor quotes because we put a lot of sweat equity into keeping this issue alive--and now alive in the Sun "paper of record".

Sorry if you've been run over by the Believers Bandwagon.

Seriously, 2A in Maryland doesn't get very far with Emperor quotes from the White Flag Brigade.
Then it is weak to begin with.

If I had listened to people telling me my businesses would fail, I'd have never succeeded. Maybe 2A advocates should suck it up and when a bit of self deprecating comment is inserted, just shake it off. Lot of people promising to go didn't while some Surrender Monkeys showed up to insert in the "body count" and listen to the speakers. Some constantly conflate expectations as the "White Flag".. getting old. You have no clue of the capital other people invest in the 2A fight. It has been enlightening the past week where mine will be shifted.
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