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I'm already a DINO, lets do this! 153 73.21%
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Old February 27th, 2016, 01:36 PM #11
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I stood outside the Timonium gun show several years ago wearing a hunter orange, DINO, t-shirt.

Tried explaining DINO to folks and was handing out flyers.

99% of the people I spoke with either couldn't or refused to comprehend what I was saying.

I could have coated a million donuts with the amount of glaze that covered their eyes.

If you can't get folks to listen about their gun rights at a gun show, I don't know how to get folks to listen.
I hear you loud and clear. I couldn't count the number of people who intentionally turn their eyes away as they pass by the MSI table at a gun show. Thankfully, the few folks who do stop and talk make it worthwhile.

And I love me some glazed donuts.
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Old February 27th, 2016, 01:45 PM #12
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Currently, I'm registered R. I'll be back to D before the 2018 primaries. I think the R side of the house needs voter clarity more so than the D side needs confusion, this cycle.
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Old February 27th, 2016, 01:50 PM #13
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Straight up republicans have held on to rural seats, elected 2 governors, and increased their numbers in the house and senate. State and national support (money, polling, groundwork by volunteers) is decided upon based on registration. If you register DINO you draw funds and time from an organization that has proven results.

The dino theory that there are "good" democrats that are going to sway the tide or somehow scare the true left wing has never been outlined as to how this would work. You guys say, if we do this then that will happen, but when?where? If you unseat one of your bogeymen, the person who takes their place will be worse in almost every instance. When you elect a "good" democrat you give the far left wing (who controls MD) judicial appointments. Honestly, I think you are not only shooting yourselves in the foot, you are shooting every conservative and every supporter of the 2nd amendment in the foot.

I'm not here to just rain on your thread, I hate to see registration taken from an organization that has proven results in the bluest of blue MD.
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Old February 27th, 2016, 02:32 PM #14
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DiNO is a tough concept to many, yes...

But in MD, in a closed primary system, it's a tool to effect change on a [mostly] local level.

In 2014, while the low participation made the effort less effective than it could have been, there was attention gained and jimmies were rustled.

DiNO should reflect and build on the disaffected mood in the state, and in 2014 several seats changed parties... in some cases because of the attention brought by the movement.

I maintain my D registration proudly (and often to the confusion of the AACo Republican leaders I talk to--and stump for--on occasion), and make a point of it when I communicate with the problem Ds. I chuckled when I found out that a number of them are planning to retire because of the pressure (and one in particular may be my fault).

It's worth a go, folks... if only to make waves and get the private satisfaction of voting against the bad ones twice.
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Straight up republicans have held on to rural seats, elected 2 governors, and increased their numbers in the house and senate. State and national support (money, polling, groundwork by volunteers) is decided upon based on registration. If you register DINO you draw funds and time from an organization that has proven results.

The dino theory that there are "good" democrats that are going to sway the tide or somehow scare the true left wing has never been outlined as to how this would work. You guys say, if we do this then that will happen, but when?where? If you unseat one of your bogeymen, the person who takes their place will be worse in almost every instance. When you elect a "good" democrat you give the far left wing (who controls MD) judicial appointments. Honestly, I think you are not only shooting yourselves in the foot, you are shooting every conservative and every supporter of the 2nd amendment in the foot.

I'm not here to just rain on your thread, I hate to see registration taken from an organization that has proven results in the bluest of blue MD.
The bold, above is a common misconception regarding the original idea of DiNO...

To vote in 'better' dems isn't the goal. The goal was to vote in the primaries for the D with the least chance to be elected in the general. There are some other nuances to it, but that was the original thrust of it.

It's almost purely a primary tool, conceived to be most effective at the more local levels, but I also find it effective in getting the attention of people who assume that because you're conservative you're an R, or that because you're a D you're Liberal.
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I did the DINO thing last election cycle, just so I could vote against Jim Brochin in both the primary and the general. For 2016, there are some powerful reasons to be able to vote in the Republican primary, so I may switch back to R. Fortunately, changing party affiliation in Maryland can be done quickly and easily, so DINO in 2018 is a distinct possibility.
I've been a DINO since its inception here, but recently switched to Republican for the very reason you state, dogbone. Come November I'm back in the only game in town. Believe me, it helps when you tell a representative "I am a Democrat" but do not support this or that effort they're putting forth.
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Straight up republicans have held on to rural seats, elected 2 governors, and increased their numbers in the house and senate. State and national support (money, polling, groundwork by volunteers) is decided upon based on registration. If you register DINO you draw funds and time from an organization that has proven results.

The dino theory that there are "good" democrats that are going to sway the tide or somehow scare the true left wing has never been outlined as to how this would work. You guys say, if we do this then that will happen, but when?where? If you unseat one of your bogeymen, the person who takes their place will be worse in almost every instance. When you elect a "good" democrat you give the far left wing (who controls MD) judicial appointments. Honestly, I think you are not only shooting yourselves in the foot, you are shooting every conservative and every supporter of the 2nd amendment in the foot.

I'm not here to just rain on your thread, I hate to see registration taken from an organization that has proven results in the bluest of blue MD.
And, I hate to burst that bubble but at least here in PG county there hasn't been a viable R to run for office in I don't remember when.
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I first heard about the DINO concept from Lou45 and FFBWMD while at Lou's shop. I switched from Libertarian that day, I enjoyed voting against Anthony Brown twice (once in the primary and again in the general).
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Unfortunately, for me, I live in Montgomery County and all of the Dems ran unopposed the last 2 elections. I am contemplating changing that scenario. I am looking at running for a Delegates seat in 2018. I hate that there are no other names on the ballot. It's just not American!!
Understood, if there is no one running against the incumbent in the democrat primary, then that aspect of being a DINO doesn't matter. If you or anyone will just run against them it forces the incumbent to spend time and money to run against their democrat challenger; money they won't have for the general election against a republican or independent.

What does it cost to get on the ballot? A good friend of mine unsuccessfully ran for Sheriff in his county several years ago; he told me the hardest and most expensive part was having signs made and putting them in. But running as a DINO, just to be opposition to an establishment democrat, you might now want to do the big signs, just some of the small ones.

I hope you run!
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