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Old August 13th, 2014, 06:59 PM #21
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The confusion is with copies, not copycats. As stated copycats are clearly defined in the statute.

MSP says copies must be cosmetically similar and have interchangeable parts.
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what if a gun was purchased after 10/01/2013. How would anyone know?
Serial number tracing. BATF goes to the manufacturer to find out who it was sold to. They go to that distributor or store and find out who got it next, and when. Eventually, they will get to when it was transferred to you.

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Serial number tracing. BATF goes to the manufacturer to find out who it was sold to. They go to that distributor or store and find out who got it next, and when. Eventually, they will get to when it was transferred to you.

Don't do stupid things with severe lifelong repercussions.
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Can the FFL give you a receipt? or the seller? If you bought ot legally it would not be a huge task to prove it's legal.

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Regarding, "bought before October 1, 2013", who is the burden of proof on?
Burden is on the state to prove it wasn't. The only "smoking gun" would be if the manufacturer/importer turned over serial number data which proved the firearm did not exist for sale prior to that date.
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It is unlikely you will be caught, unless you announce on a public forum what you did. But if ANYTHING happens that has the police looking at your firearms, they will probably go after you. Especially if you move into the state and do not register them. And registering a banned firearm purchased after Oct 1, 2013, would not be bright.

Two ways it can be proven.

1) If the firearm, based on serial number and manufacturer records, was produced after Oct 1, 2013, it was obviously received after Oct 1, 2013. Only out would be a purchase order prior to Oct 1, 2013.

2) Serial number tracking. They take the serial number, contact the manufacturer, who tells them when and who the firearm was shipped to, then they go there and see what the records show. Eventually, they will end up with it being sold to an individual from an FFL. Then they can track down that person, if not you. If you bought it face to face and don't have a receipt/bill of sale, I hope that the person you bought it from remembers when they sold it to you.

Burden of proof is on the State. However, in the meantime, they will confiscate the firearm, and possibly ALL your firearms. And you will have legal bills and an arrest record.

And even if you win, you may find it a long road to get your firearms back.

And if you lose the case, you will be prohibited from owning firearms.

Is it worth it?
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Is it worth it?
I would say the hassle no, but then if you asked the Founding Fathers whether or not Concord and Lexington were worth it, what do you think they would say? It is a shame that our freedoms, all of them, not just firearms, hang upon the whim of politicians.
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