What caliber for hog hunt?

Topher · Dec 13, 2016

Any thoughts on using a .50 Beowulf?
Overkill or not enough range?

Thanks in advance for the feedback.

DJones2987 · Dec 13, 2016

I'm finishing up my 6.8 SPC AR for deer but will use it for hogs as well. Head over to 68forums.com if you wanna read more about it. And ARP is one of the top barrel and bolt manufacturers for the 6.8.

Klunatic · Dec 13, 2016

Topher said:
Any thoughts on using a .50 Beowulf?
Overkill or not enough range?

Thanks in advance for the feedback.

I have shot hogs with a .458 socom, the problem with big caliber rounds in the AR platform like the .458 and .50 beowulf is the recoil. It is nearly impossible to get a decent follow up shot or shots on multiple hogs. The .300blk barely kicks and you can get right back on target for follow up shots. It also suppresses nicely and this really confuses the sounder of hogs. I have had
the sounder run towards me after shooting one of the members of the group. Same thing with deer as well. This video talks about this exact thing.

j_h_smith · Dec 13, 2016

Topher said:
Any thoughts on using a .50 Beowulf?
Overkill or not enough range?

Thanks in advance for the feedback.

When the Beowulf first came out, hog hunting was all you read about. It's supposed to be a great hog gun.

dreadpirate · Dec 13, 2016

If it were me, I would bring my PTR-91 with a 20 round mag of 7.62 NATO. No, but seriously, why not 223 with the heaviest bullet you can reliably shoot? O/W 300 blk seems to me it would work rather well.

j_h_smith · Dec 13, 2016

Klunatic said:
I have shot hogs with a .458 socom, the problem with big caliber rounds in the AR platform like the .458 and .50 beowulf is the recoil. It is nearly impossible to get a decent follow up shot or shots on multiple hogs. The .300blk barely kicks and you can get right back on target for follow up shots. It also suppresses nicely and this really confuses the sounder of hogs. I have had
the sounder run towards me after shooting one of the members of the group. Same thing with deer as well. This video talks about this exact thing.

The 50B with a good muzzle brake isn't that bad for recoil. I think I could get off a second shot pretty easy. Now don't get me wrong, it's not like shooting a 223, but it's very manageable.

YMMV

Klunatic · Dec 13, 2016

j_h_smith said:
The 50B with a good muzzle brake isn't that bad for recoil. I think I could get off a second shot pretty easy. Now don't get me wrong, it's not like shooting a 223, but it's very manageable.

YMMV

Not saying it isn't manageable but you will get a lot more muzzle rise out of 50B than you will out of a .300blk or .223. As other have said it really has to a lot with shot placement. I have double lunged and heart shot a hog with a 12 gauge, 3 1/2" 300gr slug going 2100fps. It bowled the hog over only to have it get up and run about 100 yards into the bush. There was a fist sized exit wound. On the other hand a neck shot from my .300blk drops them in their tracks and I can watch them roll over in the scope.

Tactics · Dec 13, 2016

Perhaps this is a dumb question...

Is 7.62 x 39 a good choice for Hogs? I don't see much love for it in this thread and am truly just curios.

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chesapeakeIRON · Dec 13, 2016

Tactics said:
Perhaps this is a dumb question...

Is 7.62 x 39 a good choice for Hogs? I don't see much love for it in this thread and am truly just curios.

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I don't see why it wouldn't be I've read about people using the Ruger mini thirty, that is 762x39

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k4Q4yJ-XaTU

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DaemonAssassin · Dec 14, 2016

Nnztg8r said:
I'd say something in excess of maybe 2200 would be sufficient. That's a WAG though. I ain't no physicist. I have killed a couple hogs though.

The 7.62x39 runs around 1600 if tables and charts can be believed. That'd work.

More is better with big hogs. I've had great luck with 308. I wouldn't hesitate to use my 35 Remington which clocks in around 2K ft/lbs.

Again, I ain't an expert.

300BLK with a 110gr bullet will see around 1500 ft/lbs, as long as the velocity is 2350 or higher.

DaemonAssassin · Dec 14, 2016

j_h_smith said:
The 50B with a good muzzle brake isn't that bad for recoil. I think I could get off a second shot pretty easy. Now don't get me wrong, it's not like shooting a 223, but it's very manageable.

YMMV

The first video is of me, the second is of psycosteve. psycosteve made a serious mistake when shouldering the rifle, can you tell what mistake he made?

j_h_smith · Dec 14, 2016

He's not leaning into his shot. Big mistake with the Beowulf.

Alea Jacta Est · Dec 14, 2016

Topher said:
Any thoughts on using a .50 Beowulf?
Overkill or not enough range?

Thanks in advance for the feedback.

Perfect.

byf43 · Dec 14, 2016

Either .45-70 "Gummint" or .44 Magnum.

I've taken two hogs.

First was with Dan Wesson .44 magnum VH-4 set-up. Distance: 7 feet.
Second was with Marlin 1895G in .45-70. Distance: 20 yards.

Both dropped where they stood, like they were hit by freight-trains.

fidelity · Dec 14, 2016

Tactics said:
Perhaps this is a dumb question...

Is 7.62 x 39 a good choice for Hogs? I don't see much love for it in this thread and am truly just curios.

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Some specialized bullets (such as controlled chaos) might not be commercially available for it, but for the first couple hundred yards, the average 7.62x39 round will have more energy than similar bullet weight 7.62x35 (300 BLK) rounds (e.g. 124/125 gr). The ballistics (aerodynamics) of bullets loaded into 300 BLK rounds often give them an energy advantage at greater distances.

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fidelity · Dec 14, 2016

byf43 said:
Either .45-70 "Gummint" or .44 Magnum.

I've taken two hogs.

First was with Dan Wesson .44 magnum VH-4 set-up. Distance: 7 feet.
Second was with Marlin 1895G in .45-70. Distance: 20 yards.

Both dropped where they stood, like they were hit by freight-trains.

...

That Dan Wesson is a looker.

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jimbobborg · Dec 14, 2016

fidelity said:
Some specialized bullets (such as controlled chaos) might not be commercially available for it, but for the first couple hundred yards, the average 7.62x39 round will have more energy than similar bullet weight 7.62x35 (300 BLK) rounds (e.g. in the 124/125 gr). The ballistics (aerodynamics) of bullets loaded into 300 BLK rounds often give them an energy advantage at greater distances.

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The Zombie Max ammo should do the trick.

fidelity · Dec 14, 2016

jimbobborg said:
The Zombie Max ammo should do the trick.

Will check it out.

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DaemonAssassin · Dec 14, 2016

jimbobborg said:
The Zombie Max ammo should do the trick.

fidelity said:
Will check it out.

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ZMax is the same thing as VMax, just a different colored tip age a difference in price. Save your money and get the VMax.

Tactics · Dec 15, 2016

fidelity said:
Some specialized bullets (such as controlled chaos) might not be commercially available for it, but for the first couple hundred yards, the average 7.62x39 round will have more energy than similar bullet weight 7.62x35 (300 BLK) rounds (e.g. 124/125 gr). The ballistics (aerodynamics) of bullets loaded into 300 BLK rounds often give them an energy advantage at greater distances.

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Thanks!

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