Carly Fiorina stance on the 2nd amendant

johnnyb2 · Aug 10, 2015

aquaman said:
She would offshore your job to India and raise her own pay whilst hanging a giant portrait of herself in the lobby.

HP.

I think that these are prerequisite values, prior to becoming a CEO of a Fortune 500 company.

Although, I did like her NRA speech. I have heard a few of her comments about other issues, and...she seems to be on the right track as far as some of my thoughts and beliefs, but still need to know ALOT MORE about her.

Pope414 · Aug 10, 2015

Brooklyn said:
First.. 2a is not a political issue. So frankly. Who cares..

In the end its the senate we need to retake..and anything that makes that less likely... including a R pres may do more harm than getting good.

Frankly I am not sure belive a word she says on any topic..

But if she does not self destruct.. I will look into it..

For now I am much more concerned about economic issues..and she does not impress.

The Second amendment is very relevant in this upcoming election you have to take into consideration that there will probably be at least three appointments to the Supreme Court during the next administration also during that same time You will probably have the two cases coming out of the ninth district in regard to the Second Amendment and concealed carry . if a democrat or a non-second amendment supporting Republican were to make Supreme Court appointments it could destroy our second amendment rights to keep and bear arms. Keep in mind the appointments made to the court under Obama as well as sitting Justice Ginsburg have let it be known that they will be activists rather than jurists . So taking all of that into account this is a very important election.

Brooklyn · Aug 10, 2015

Pope414 said:
The Second amendment is very relevant in this upcoming election you have to take into consideration that there will probably be at least three appointments to the Supreme Court during the next administration also during that same time You will probably have the two cases coming out of the ninth district in regard to the Second Amendment and concealed carry . if a democrat or a non-second amendment supporting Republican were to make Supreme Court appointments it could destroy our second amendment rights to keep and bear arms. Keep in mind the appointments made to the court under Obama as well as sitting Justice Ginsburg have let it be known that they will be activists rather than jurists . So taking all of that into account this is a very important election.

But without the senate we are toast.

Meanwhile we are not going to get a good court from Carly ... Because she telegraphs for political gain.. And will get eaten alive by congress.

Carly is not our saviour.. Unless she runs for senate ...or even better tries to run a state..

lseries · Aug 10, 2015

Carly Fiorina is the woman who single-handedly almost drove Hewlett-Packard out of business. One of my best friends, now unfortunately deceased, was a retired H-P VP. He was as far left and PC as you can get. Because of those views it pained him more than you can imagine to say that she was incompetent and should be booted (which eventually she was).

From the way she ran H-P, I sure don't want her running the country. I would not vote for her no matter her 2A stance.

krucam · Aug 10, 2015

lseries said:
Carly Fiorina is the woman who single-handedly almost drove Hewlett-Packard out of business. One of my best friends, now unfortunately deceased, was a retired H-P VP. He was as far left and PC as you can get. Because of those views it pained him more than you can imagine to say that she was incompetent and should be booted (which eventually she was).

From the way she ran H-P, I sure don't want her running the country. I would not vote for her no matter her 2A stance.

She drove HP during a recession when many Fortune 500 companies showed negative gains. I'll vote for any pro 2A R over a D any day...

Rickman · Aug 10, 2015

Brooklyn said:
But without the senate we are toast.

Meanwhile we are not going to get a good court from Carly ... Because she telegraphs for political gain.. And will get eaten alive by congress.

Carly is not our saviour.. Unless she runs for senate ...or even better tries to run a state..

Not sure I understand what you mean here:

114th Congress (2015-2017)
Majority Party: Republican (54 seats)
Minority Party: Democrat (44 seats)
Other Parties: 2 Independents (both caucus with the Democrats)

Armati · Aug 10, 2015

Jim12 said:
Well, on my trip to India those Chinese knockoffs of McDonald's, Burger King, Subway, Coca Cola, Four Seasons, Marriott, Baskin Robbins, and dozens of other American brands sure fooled me. Thanks for setting me straight.

Great, this may help the execs at these companies and a few hedge fund managers. It really does nothing to improve the economic prospects of the average American.

India is still a third world crap hole with a few rich and very rich people - and if folks like Fiorina get their way, so will the United States.

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Armati · Aug 10, 2015

What is her position on national CCW receprocity?

If the NRA was doing it's job it would be injecting this into the race.

FWIW, Trump also has a CCW and is a better candidate.

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smokey · Aug 10, 2015

she's impressive. This interview is hilurrrrious to see how badly carly whupped that giant turd couric

rico903 · Aug 11, 2015

Armati said:
What is her position on national CCW receprocity?

If the NRA was doing it's job it would be injecting this into the race.

FWIW, Trump also has a CCW and is a better candidate.

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He was anti gun before he was pro gun . Trump is one of the I deserve a CCW but the masses don't.

Brooklyn · Aug 11, 2015

Rickman said:
Not sure I understand what you mean here:

114th Congress (2015-2017)
Majority Party: Republican (54 seats)
Minority Party: Democrat (44 seats)
Other Parties: 2 Independents (both caucus with the Democrats)

Only the Senate has voice in confirmations..period. And we need a super majority.. maybe even 2/3..

Also its very rare for R to hold all house Senate and whitehouse

So we stand to lose as much as we gain..

We need folks in the Senate to take a long view on power.. or we are sunk.
Only the D will hold the line when faced with an R president.. without a super majority the R will run for cover as we have seen.

danb · Aug 11, 2015

Rickman said:
Not sure I understand what you mean here:

114th Congress (2015-2017)
Majority Party: Republican (54 seats)
Minority Party: Democrat (44 seats)
Other Parties: 2 Independents (both caucus with the Democrats)

Brooklyn said:
Only the Senate has voice in confirmations..period. And we need a super majority.. maybe even 2/3..

Also its very rare for R to hold all house Senate and whitehouse

So we stand to lose as much as we gain..

We need folks in the Senate to take a long view on power.. or we are sunk.
Only the D will hold the line when faced with an R president.. without a super majority the R will run for cover as we have seen.

Also: there is a better than even chance that the senate elected in 2016 will have a Dem majority, given the seats the GOP has to defend.

Rickman · Aug 11, 2015

Thanks, wasn't sure where you were going with it.

I'm hoping the '12 and '14 anger will continue and we will actually continue to pickup seats, not lose them.

kcbrown · Aug 11, 2015

Brooklyn said:
Only the Senate has voice in confirmations..period. And we need a super majority.. maybe even 2/3..

Also its very rare for R to hold all house Senate and whitehouse

So we stand to lose as much as we gain..

We need folks in the Senate to take a long view on power.. or we are sunk.

Yes. And what incentive whatsoever exists for them to do that?

Only the D will hold the line when faced with an R president.. without a super majority the R will run for cover as we have seen.

Which means that, for confirmations, we need either a Republican majority in the senate and a Republican president, or we need a Republican supermajority in the Senate. No other arrangement yields even potentially 2A-friendly nominations (indeed, every other arrangement yields 2A-hostile nominations).

Which of those two things do you think is more likely? I'd wager R president and R senate majority, myself.

And note that a Republican supermajority with a Democrat president only guarantees that the resulting nominees will not be ultra-socialist types. Even a supermajority is limited to those candidates which are presented to them. What incentive does a Democrat president have to nominate pro-2A candidates, even when facing a Republican supermajority?

No, logically, the only arrangement which has a reasonable chance of yielding pro-2A nominees is a R president and R majority senate.

And finally, what evidence is there that there is a causally inverted relationship between the country's choice of a Republican president and the chance of a Republican senate majority being elected?

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