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Old June 26th, 2018, 04:52 PM #1
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Knife Rights loses NY Gravity Knife Case at 2nd Circuit

Here it is. Looks like Knife Rights was trying to invalidate the entire law and the 2nd circuit said we are not willing to go that far. However it is possible that they could have won if they had made a as applied challenge.


https://kniferights.org/wp-content/u...n_06222018.pdf
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Old June 26th, 2018, 04:57 PM #2
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That law makes me want to bang my head.

Edit: actually I guess I should say the way they’ve been interpreting it makes me want to bang my head.
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Old June 26th, 2018, 05:08 PM #3
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So if I buy knife that I cant flick open at the store but after years of use and opening and closing that knife now does open with flick of a wrist 10% of the time it is a gravity knife even though it may not have been that way when new. Yeah seems vague enough... I fail to see how a gravity knife is anymore dangerous than lets say a 1 one handed operated one but hey what do I know I am not liberal enough.
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what the heck is a wrist flick test? all my knives open with a flick?
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I have a NY taser case going right now and Jim Maloney has a 2a case going to trial re nun chucks.
After those are wrapped up, Id be tempted to file a knife case on 2a grounds.
I think knife rights is adverse to doing a 2a challenge for some reason
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New York law defines a gravity knife as a knife that can be opened to a locked position with a one‐handed flick of the wrist.
When does "gravity" come into play?
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When does "gravity" come into play?

right after centriperal force and inertia.....


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I have a NY taser case going right now and Jim Maloney has a 2a case going to trial re nun chucks.
After those are wrapped up, Id be tempted to file a knife case on 2a grounds.
I think knife rights is adverse to doing a 2a challenge for some reason
I know how to win the nunchakus case.

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I have a Gerber Obsidian folder with a slide safety and a push-button lock. It locks both closed and open. There are no spring assists. If you slide the safety and push the lock-release, and flick it really, really hard (like almost throw it across the room) you can barely get it to deploy the blade.

Horse-pucky that this is a "gravity" knife. My grandmother's knitting needles are likely a New York "gravity" knife as well.
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Good GOD! I have an entire collection of knives in my kitchen that are PERMANENTLY open. They don't close at all!!! Are they assault knives? Fully automatic?!?! I think I need to submit myself for a background check... Who sells a good knife safe???
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