Ghost Gun Ban

Mike OTDP · Aug 12, 2018

We need to make the point that this is the consequence of previous gun bans. When you spend your time screaming, "Ban this! Ban that! Ban, ban, ban!", people will start to work around it.

The quickest way to kill the 80% receiver is a SCOTUS decision smacking down a local or state gun ban. Hard.

DC-W · Aug 12, 2018

The powers that be in state government are more than willing to eviscerate the Bill of Rights to ban what you do in the privacy of your own home — and it’s far more than just gun rights that are at stake.

Inigoes · Aug 12, 2018

MrsRab1515 said:
So, effectively not at all, right?

Mike OTDP said:
We need to make the point that this is the consequence of previous gun bans. When you spend your time screaming, "Ban this! Ban that! Ban, ban, ban!", people will start to work around it.

The quickest way to kill the 80% receiver is a SCOTUS decision smacking down a local or state gun ban. Hard.

Unfortunately, that approach takes a long time.

MrsRab1515 · Aug 12, 2018

Mike OTDP said:
We need to make the point that this is the consequence of previous gun bans. When you spend your time screaming, "Ban this! Ban that! Ban, ban, ban!", people will start to work around it.

The quickest way to kill the 80% receiver is a SCOTUS decision smacking down a local or state gun ban. Hard.

I guess the Heller decision wasn't enough

iH8DemLibz · Aug 12, 2018

Mike OTDP said:
We need to make the point that this is the consequence of previous gun bans. When you spend your time screaming, "Ban this! Ban that! Ban, ban, ban!", people will start to work around it.

The quickest way to kill the 80% receiver is a SCOTUS decision smacking down a local or state gun ban. Hard.

And all of us know just how much SCOTUS loves taking up 2A cases.

We'll have our rights back in no time.

teratos · Aug 12, 2018

MrsRab1515 said:
I guess the Heller decision wasn't enough

Most definitely not.

Kicken Wing · Aug 13, 2018

DC-W said:
The powers that be in state government are more than willing to eviscerate the Bill of Rights to ban what you do in the privacy of your own home — and it’s far more than just gun rights that are at stake.

Agreed. On another note.... when Fox news is reporting that "the NRA has supported law to make these guns illegal for 30 years", that's scary. I am beginning to see that there are not as many people that support "gun freedom" on the republican side as I once thought. That video clip with Chris Wallace is an embarrassment. Now Fox is helping to blur the lines between a 3D printed gun, an un-serialized gun and the liberator. Jeeeeeezus. Hats off to Cody Wilson for taking up this challenge (involuntarily). He is very articulate and well spoken.

pcfixer · Aug 13, 2018

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2018/03/laurence-m-vance/republicans-still-dont-get-it-on-gun-control/

The United States was set up as a federal system of government where the states, through the Constitution, granted a limited number of powers to the national government. Most of these powers are listed in the 18 paragraphs found in Section 8 of Article I on the Legislative Branch.
The only mention of guns is in paragraph 16 where Congress is given the power to “provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia.” The power of Congress to “control” the manufacture, sale, or possession of guns is nowhere to be found.
This means that the federal government has no authority to have a Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), issue Federal Firearms Licensees (FFL), have a National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS), prevent anyone from buying a gun, ban certain types of guns, ammunition, or magazines, regulate gun shows, or have any gun laws whatsoever.

Is anyone really paying attention??

ras_oscar · Aug 13, 2018

cantstop said:
So the meatheads in Annapolis want to ban all guns made before 1968 without serial numbers from possession in MD.

Priceless

So, if I owned a legally manufactured regulated firearm, produced before 1968, and wanted to fill out the paperwork to complete a legal transfer, what would I enter into the form field " serial number" ?

I assume that despite the fact the serial number was not required, most manufacturers applied one for their own purposes, True?

iH8DemLibz · Aug 13, 2018

They're not coming after pre-68, un-serialized, firearms.

eruby · Aug 13, 2018

iH8DemLibz said:
They're not coming after pre-68, un-serialized, firearms.

Yet ...........

Inigoes · Aug 13, 2018

ras_oscar said:
So, if I owned a legally manufactured regulated firearm, produced before 1968, and wanted to fill out the paperwork to complete a legal transfer, what would I enter into the form field " serial number" ?

"N/A"

East2West · Aug 13, 2018

iH8DemLibz said:
They're not coming after pre-68, un-serialized, firearms.

Nope they will just accidentally forget to grandfather them into the bill, or otherwise protect them. Then you'll get pulled over on the way home from the range and magically be in possession of an illegal weapon. Total accident of course. Just an unintended consequence of saving the children and such.

JohnnyE · Aug 13, 2018

pcfixer said:
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2018/03/laurence-m-vance/republicans-still-dont-get-it-on-gun-control/

The United States was set up as a federal system of government where the states, through the Constitution, granted a limited number of powers to the national government. Most of these powers are listed in the 18 paragraphs found in Section 8 of Article I on the Legislative Branch.
The only mention of guns is in paragraph 16 where Congress is given the power to “provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia.” The power of Congress to “control” the manufacture, sale, or possession of guns is nowhere to be found.
This means that the federal government has no authority to have a Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), issue Federal Firearms Licensees (FFL), have a National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS), prevent anyone from buying a gun, ban certain types of guns, ammunition, or magazines, regulate gun shows, or have any gun laws whatsoever.

Is anyone really paying attention??

It's reached via the Commerce Clause. The Congress shall have power "To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes."

That's why we have, for instance, a federal minimum wage affecting even a kid a pushing a broom in an independent, small town Maryland hardware store. How, pray tell, is a kid pushing a broom involved in interstate commerce? It's simple. With his quarters, the kid buys a Coke to drink. The syrup is made by the Coca Cola company of Atlanta Georgia. Ah ha! Interstate commerce. Case closed.

By this rationale, EVERYTHING affects interstate commerce, so nothing is beyond the reach of the feds.

cantstop · Aug 13, 2018

ras_oscar said:
So, if I owned a legally manufactured regulated firearm, produced before 1968, and wanted to fill out the paperwork to complete a legal transfer, what would I enter into the form field " serial number" ?

NSN

Mr H · Aug 13, 2018

iH8DemLibz said:
They're not coming after pre-68, un-serialized, firearms.

Guaranteed that they'll call it a Happy Accident, and not turn them down, either...

DSBartender · Aug 13, 2018

Sounds like this Black Friday will be a good time to stock up 80% lowers!

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mac1_131 · Aug 13, 2018

Hogan will veto this.

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pcfixer · Aug 13, 2018

JohnnyE said:
It's reached via the Commerce Clause. The Congress shall have power "To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes."

That's why we have, for instance, a federal minimum wage affecting even a kid a pushing a broom in an independent, small town Maryland hardware store. How, pray tell, is a kid pushing a broom involved in interstate commerce? It's simple. With his quarters, the kid buys a Coke to drink. The syrup is made by the Coca Cola company of Atlanta Georgia. Ah ha! Interstate commerce. Case closed.

By this rationale, EVERYTHING affects interstate commerce, so nothing is beyond the reach of the feds.

yep, and you can keep believing that crap!!

https://vimeo.com/60944105
Everyone, please view and listen to this.

OH YEA and this......http://edwinvieira.com/edwin15.htm

Abacab · Aug 13, 2018

mac1_131 said:
Hogan will veto this.

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Excellent snark

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