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Why can't MSP have a FAQ regarding these things? It would make it easer on everyone, including the Police.
Rifle In Motor Vehicle ?'s
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- Dec 13, 2015
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I"ll assume that this is not fake news:
http://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/agopinions/MDAG ResponseToLongGunCarry.pdf
http://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/agopinions/MDAG ResponseToLongGunCarry.pdf
That's legit.
- Jan 30, 2013
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Largely because that would remove some of the fear, uncertainty, and doubt that the Maryland State Government wants all gun owners to feel, thereby discouraging gun ownership and exercise of one's 2A rights.
If people can be kept in a state of anxiety over whether they've inadvertently broken the law, they're easier to control.
Because if MSP had half an idea what the fvck they where doing with firearms, then they would be much more effective in regards to firearms laws and we wouldn't be in the mess we're in currently.
Always remember MSP's motto "we enforce traditions, not laws"
Other than the requirement that handguns be transported in an enclosed case or holster, there is nothing in the MD statute that requires the magazines be transported that way, nor is there any prohibition on them being carried together.
However the federal statute 926A (FOPA) does require the firearm be in your trunk or if no trunk, either the ammo or the firearm be in a locked case. FOPA also does not require separation of guns and ammo if a trunk is available for transport.
Per the MD AG, FOPA has no bearing on trips that begin and end in MD.
IANAL
Maxpedition pistol case, holds 9 loaded mags with pistol in opposite zippered side, no lock, behind the seat of a pickup, for transportation only, w/collector status. ?
Sorry, I know this type thread can go on for a while, and has many times, just a good morning to swinokur who I have found to be one of the more knowledgeable on this subject.
Sorry, I know this type thread can go on for a while, and has many times, just a good morning to swinokur who I have found to be one of the more knowledgeable on this subject.
Completely legal, even with out the DC letter.
With the caveat that you are engaged in one of the allowed activities specified in 4-203
G'day sir.
With the caveat that you are engaged in one of the allowed activities specified in 4-203
G'day sir.
sgt23preston
USMC LLA. NRA Life Member
IF your interest is in avoiding legal troubles,
It is best if the rifle is in a case in the trunk of you car & out of sight...
Similarly empty magazines & boxed ammo stored out of sight & in the trunk could save you some UN-necessary trouble...
It all depends on WHY you are transporting it...
Show me in the statute where your reason for transport is required.
To avoid legal trouble I printed the single page AG opinion (Bowman) concerning loaded magazines. This is stored under the foam in my lock boxes.
- Feb 4, 2013
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Also, this WAS the posture of the AG and MSP in the 90s.
Some people just don't keep up.
Not an expert on FOPA, but have a question for clarity. it appears to be a defense to restrictive state laws a traveler may travel through. Is this correct? It does not create a criminal offense for breaching it, just acts as a shield for someone transporting through a state with more restrictive laws? In other words, in States that have laws permitting firearms to be transported with less restrictions that FOPA, this is ok to do, even if the traveler is engaging in interstate travel? Stated another way, it is not mandatory to comply with FOPA while travelling unless you travel through States that have restrictions on the transport of firearms greater than what is provided by FOPA? I think i answered my own question and it sounds reasonable but since i do not deal with this statute on a regular basis, just seeking some clarity.
Yes, I agree. FOPA was designed to protect via an affirmative defense against states with more restrictive laws that either your origin or destination state.
If a state has less restrictive laws than FOPA, then you may carry in accordance with those laws.
As an example, if travelling through VA, OC in your car is perfectly legal. CCW without a permit would not.
IANAL
If a state has less restrictive laws than FOPA, then you may carry in accordance with those laws.
As an example, if travelling through VA, OC in your car is perfectly legal. CCW without a permit would not.
IANAL
This only addresses loaded handgun magazines but this is the letter that I carry in my gun boxes.
Primarily because the transport statute 4-203 addresses transportation of handguns, not long guns. It's a little ambiguous.
The DNR statute 10-410(c) is not ambiguous. It allows carry of loaded magazines if not in the firearm and is not limited to hunting as previously postulated.
The DNR statute 10-410(c) is not ambiguous. It allows carry of loaded magazines if not in the firearm and is not limited to hunting as previously postulated.
- Apr 25, 2017
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For me the WHY would be self defense, and it definitely would NOT be out in plain view and would be in a case. I'm leaning heavily towards the sub2k, folded in a small case under the seat, and loaded mags in the center console.
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