Form 1 $100 suppressor

DaemonAssassin · Feb 24, 2020

squaregrouper said:
Yes, you have to engrave the tube. I don't know about disposal.
The Form 1 e-files currently have an ~30 day turn around time. (That was not a typo)

StantonCree said:
Do i send the CLEO sign off in or go there to do it?

I think I’m gonna dip my feet in this NFA game.

That was my last question i promise but i do really thank you guys for answering me!

Allow me to elaborate. SG is right with it being about 30 days. Fastest one I ever got was in 27 days, the longest was 35 days. But then again, that was the eform 1.

OLM-Medic · Feb 24, 2020

StantonCree said:
Lol i kinda want to call the ATF for clarity and full legality on these but i feel like that will 100% put me on a “we are watching you” list. I’ve wanted a .22 suppressor for a while and the form 1 return time is appealing! My BIL who basically only owns NFA items says its way quicker then a 4

I saw that Diversified Machine has a discreet mail in order if you are paranoid

Occam · Feb 24, 2020

OLM-Medic said:
I saw that Diversified Machine has a discreet mail in order if you are paranoid

But you still gotta get that indelible stamp. But such a large (literally and figuratively) object on the federal record keeping radar at this point, I just have to conclude I can no longer care if my radar blip gets a little larger.

A friend and I are going to be setting up his new drill-mill in March, and no matter how much his wife thinks it’s so he can finally get some of those kitchen projects done, we’re both going to be trying some of these projects. Can’t not.

OLM-Medic · Feb 24, 2020

Occam said:
But you still gotta get that indelible stamp. But such a large (literally and figuratively) object on the federal record keeping radar at this point, I just have to conclude I can no longer care if my radar blip gets a little larger.

A friend and I are going to be setting up his new drill-mill in March, and no matter how much his wife thinks it’s so he can finally get some of those kitchen projects done, we’re both going to be trying some of these projects. Can’t not.

I would be more worried about the feds checking the site records and thinking you're building an illegal one because they were too stupid to check to see if your name had any approved form 1's.

RuralRifleGuy · Feb 24, 2020

Just a heads up in case anyone was curious, the Quiet Bore titanium internal .22 kit can handle 17hmr and 22mag as well, the aluminum one cannot. I couldn’t find anything definitive on their site or elsewhere online so I emailed them.

StantonCree · Feb 24, 2020

OLM-Medic said:
I saw that Diversified Machine has a discreet mail in order if you are paranoid

No I’m not really worried worried i just wish i could get the stamp before the product. I’m still game on this and if i was going to break the law i obviously wouldn’t even be posting here especially asking questions on how to do it properly.

I’m gonna go the .22 route.

ABN · Feb 24, 2020

RuralRifleGuy said:
Just a heads up in case anyone was curious, the Quiet Bore titanium internal .22 kit can handle 17hmr and 22mag as well, the aluminum one cannot. I couldn’t find anything definitive on their site or elsewhere online so I emailed them.

Another heads up if anyone was curious, the .45 QB kit works lovely on 9mm if you decide to get their .45 kit and use the 9mm drill plate.

DaemonAssassin · Feb 24, 2020

StantonCree said:
No I’m not really worried worried i just wish i could get the stamp before the product. I’m still game on this and if i was going to break the law i obviously wouldn’t even be posting here especially asking questions on how to do it properly.

I’m gonna go the .22 route.

Owning/possessing a solvent trap is legal, as long as you haven't drilled out the end cap. Oh and might I suggest that you wait on drilling things out, until you get your tube engraved. It's not in the law, but it is a CYA to get the tube engraved, before drilling anything.

If you are going to do the 22 kit, I have the drill fixture. If you want to borrow it for when you drill the baffles, you're free to do so.

OLM-Medic · Feb 25, 2020

DaemonAssassin said:
Owning/possessing a solvent trap is legal, as long as you haven't drilled out the end cap. Oh and might I suggest that you wait on drilling things out, until you get your tube engraved. It's not in the law, but it is a CYA to get the tube engraved, before drilling anything.

If you are going to do the 22 kit, I have the drill fixture. If you want to borrow it for when you drill the baffles, you're free to do so.

It sure is

I wouldn't doubt of the ATF keeps tabs though

babalou · Feb 27, 2020

question on baffle drill markings

I watched a quietbore vid using their kits to hold the baffle in place to drill. Dumb question. When he was done he had the camera guy do a close up. How and what are those 45 degree off reams in the center? All he used was a drill and a vise? Each had one edge in the hole that had like an off partial drill and underneath more.

babalou · Feb 27, 2020

oil adapter

https://solventcatch.com/
has an oil filter adapter for $30. Assume that needs a stamp?

babalou · Feb 27, 2020

better pic

better pic

RuralRifleGuy · Feb 27, 2020

babalou said:
I watched a quietbore vid using their kits to hold the baffle in place to drill. Dumb question. When he was done he had the camera guy do a close up. How and what are those 45 degree off reams in the center? All he used was a drill and a vise? Each had one edge in the hole that had like an off partial drill and underneath more.

Those are premachined on the blanks. You can see them on the back photo here: https://www.quietbore.com/product/45cal-aluminum-internal/

I believe it’s an alignment notch so they are all put in a specific orientation. I could be wrong but I know many if not most commercial baffles have an alignment notch to orient them.

babalou · Feb 27, 2020

Thank you for the quick response. Thought it was some weird thing did for something else. Of course some pics reflect too much. Like StantonCree I too would like to dabble in this. Looks cool. Also self cleaning instead of the contained units. I know there is a place that can take your sealed can and convert to self cleaning- as in take apart.

I wonder how quiet these traps are?

DaemonAssassin · Feb 27, 2020

babalou said:
I watched a quietbore vid using their kits to hold the baffle in place to drill. Dumb question. When he was done he had the camera guy do a close up. How and what are those 45 degree off reams in the center? All he used was a drill and a vise? Each had one edge in the hole that had like an off partial drill and underneath more.

RuralRifleGuy said:
Those are premachined on the blanks. You can see them on the back photo here: https://www.quietbore.com/product/45cal-aluminum-internal/

I believe it’s an alignment notch so they are all put in a specific orientation. I could be wrong but I know many if not most commercial baffles have an alignment notch to orient them.

babalou said:
Thank you for the quick response. Thought it was some weird thing did for something else. Of course some pics reflect too much. Like StantonCree I too would like to dabble in this. Looks cool. Also self cleaning instead of the contained units. I know there is a place that can take your sealed can and convert to self cleaning- as in take apart.

I wonder how quiet these traps are?

Wrong. Those cuts you see are actually where the cones were clipped, to disrupt the laminar flow, as the bullet goes through the baffle stack.

As for how quiet they are, I'd be more than willing to let you try one out at the range.

Fox123 · Feb 27, 2020

DaemonAssassin said:
Wrong. Those cuts you see are actually where the cones were clipped, to disrupt the laminar flow, as the bullet goes through the baffle stack.

This.

When you drill the bore hole, it takes the material from the clip since they are machined on an angle on the blank.

babalou · Feb 27, 2020

Ah gotcha. Wondered why all look the same. Sounds interesting DA

DaemonAssassin · Feb 27, 2020

babalou said:
Ah gotcha. Wondered why all look the same. Sounds interesting DA

Want to try before you buy? Let me know.

outrider58 · Feb 28, 2020

babalou said:
Ah gotcha. Wondered why all look the same. Sounds interesting DA

DaemonAssassin said:
Want to try before you buy? Let me know.

I can make this happen. Bob Alou

is planning on joining my IWLA anyway. Until then, we can have him along on our next range trip.

md_al · Feb 28, 2020

Not sure about the oil filter adapter. If I understood the wording properly bythe (ATF) the filter is part of the suppressor making it "unreplaceable" without paying for another stamp. Does it imply the serial number being placed on the filter? While I've seen you tube videos that they work. I so not think it is worth in to shell out $200 each time I change the filter.

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