bitterkenny
Meh
How about we ask a different way - given access to every other combat handgun ever made, would the 1911 be your first choice? How many choices are ahead of the 1911?
1911s are “obsolete.”
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JimB
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Every American should have at least one 1911. Not my choice for self defense but I have one.
Steve_Zissou
Ultimate Member
Probably some polynine (or .40, or .45) that's soulless and forgettable specifically because it's so flawlessly reliable and easy to use. It could be a Glock, an FNS, an M&P, who knows.
alucard0822
For great Justice
I like 1911s, I really do, along with Jeeps, Garands, and a whole host of stuff we have won wars with, but there is a reason they have essentially been replaced. Manufacturing complexity, cost, maintenence, reliability, capacity, weight, and so on. They still can kill people, along with mid-size blowback 380s and revolvers, although with modern designs those also have enough drawbacks, you could argue they are obsolete also.
Very glad I own a gen-u-ine Colt 1911, and I've enjoyed shooting it. Unique, compared to the many other pistols I use. But I'm also very glad to have smaller, easier-to-conceal/carry contemporary pistols. My 1911 has never misbehaved once, unless you count being big and heavy as forms of misbehavior. I'm a big guy, with big hands, and feel like I can hardly miss using that Colt ... but it's not something I'd carry these days. I don't think "obsolete" is necessarily the right word, but maybe "old school?" Seeing a senior LEO with a Kimber on his hip is actually quite cool - he's wearing it (as my wife the jeweler would say) as a "statement piece." Because he doesn't have to conceal it. And concealment is - for guns that aren't just range queens or worn by that small demographic who carry openly - pretty much where the entire market and its innovation is oriented right now, and understandably so.
jimbobborg
Oddball caliber fan
I'm not a cop, I'm not getting into firefights, I CCW a 2" 38 revolver. At 9 feet, I can put a bullet in two heads before most of you can get your pistol out of your fancy appendix carry holsters. If given a choice going to "battle" I pick up a long gun. Inside 100 yards, I'll take a semiautomatic carbine. Outside 100 yards, I'm leaving the area. With all that said, I'm more accurate with the 1911 platform than any of the poly Wondernines.
I will keep my 1911 thank you very much. When i travel to a free America it does travel with me and if OC is allowed ex DEL i will carry my 1911 and or my SWSD40. for cc i use my glock 27.
Obsolete?
Then you’ll just be more embarrassed when you get shot by one.
Also Citizens of Tomorrowland......
Beware the man that carries only a revolver for he probably knows how to shoot.
Then you’ll just be more embarrassed when you get shot by one.
Also Citizens of Tomorrowland......
Beware the man that carries only a revolver for he probably knows how to shoot.
I’m sure somebody will come along to tell me my Gen1, 2 and 3 Glocks are also Obsolete
Steve_Zissou
Ultimate Member
I'm still scratching my head and trying to understand how there's even supposed to be anything different between the Glock generations...
Truly, weight and capacity are really the only reasons worth mentioning.
In any role, it's always beneficial to be able to have as much, if not more ammo than the other guy in a fight. Modern double-stacks let you do this with less extra baggage to worry about
In a combat role, a weapon that weighs less means you can carry that much more ammo which goes back to point number 1.
Hence the current LSAT weapons trials to replace the M249. The demand is for a 12lb LMG firing ammo that is at least 20% lighter than the current loadout meaning soldiers can move faster while carrying more firepower.
That said, given that I'm less likely than a soldier or police officer to have to use a weapon in a firefight, I'm a fan on the 1911 in its classic form vs modern pistols. I simply shoot better with them than I do with modern arms.
In any role, it's always beneficial to be able to have as much, if not more ammo than the other guy in a fight. Modern double-stacks let you do this with less extra baggage to worry about
In a combat role, a weapon that weighs less means you can carry that much more ammo which goes back to point number 1.
Hence the current LSAT weapons trials to replace the M249. The demand is for a 12lb LMG firing ammo that is at least 20% lighter than the current loadout meaning soldiers can move faster while carrying more firepower.
That said, given that I'm less likely than a soldier or police officer to have to use a weapon in a firefight, I'm a fan on the 1911 in its classic form vs modern pistols. I simply shoot better with them than I do with modern arms.
DutchV
Ultimate Member
- Jul 8, 2012
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For military and police, yes, the 1911 is obsolete. There's much better choices for them.
For the rest of us, 7 or 8 rounds of .45 can still solve a lot of problems.
For the rest of us, 7 or 8 rounds of .45 can still solve a lot of problems.
dist1646
Ultimate Member
I'll bet not one of those keyboard commandos would want to be on the receiving end of a 1911!
Love it.
- Dec 27, 2012
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A G21 with a loaded 13 round magazine is lighter than a 1911 with a loaded 7 round magazine.
I don’t dislike 1911’s but I dislike low capacity magazines.
I don’t dislike 1911’s but I dislike low capacity magazines.
budman93
Ultimate Member
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