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Old June 16th, 2017, 03:36 PM #1
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Carrying In National Parks

The way I understand current law, if one has a CCW permit in, say, Virginia, one can carry concealed in national parks in Virginia (or reciprocal states). But what about national parks in Maryland? Does state law keep anyone from carrying handguns? The idea of hiking or camping in national parks and not being able to carry a gun is outrageous.

Having just gotten my national parks card, if like to visit some national parks and am planning on getting a Virginia permit. To me, it's horribly unfair that some people can carry guns in a wilderness area with no cops and few rangers, and others can't.

Is it a good idea to carry anyway and be discreet, or is it a bad idea?

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nope. National Parks follow the law of the state they are in.

Therefore in MD-illegal

It's also horribly unfair that I can't get a W&C permit while some people can.

MD doesn't care about fairness

And forum rules prohibit advocating illegal acts
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It's a really, REALLY, bad idea to carry a handgun is this state without a carry permit.

Discreet or not.

Remember, boys and girls: Maryland will see us dead, before Maryland sees us carry.
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Old June 16th, 2017, 03:48 PM #4
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Carry anyway???

You might want to edit your post.

Suggestions of illegality can get you in trouble here. Do what you do but don't talk about it here unless it's legal. Just my .02
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Illegal in Maryland even with a Maryland carry permit

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I'm curious what the consequences would be, as no Maryland LEOs have jurisdiction in a national park. And as far as I know, the park service can't enforce state law, so it would be some federal charge in federal court.
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You'd be violating Federal law, subject to arrest by Federal LE, including US Park Police

the only way to be legal in a National Park would be with an unrestricted W&C permit.
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Per Delaware laws.

You CAN NOT carry in their parks.
Be careful, most of their beaches are considered " Parks "
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https://www.nps.gov/grca/learn/manag...arks2-2010.pdf

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A permit is required to carry concealed
weapons. Some concealed-weapons permits
are recognized in multiple states, but many
are not. It is the gun owner’s responsibility to
know and understand what laws apply.
Don't do it.
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Any time I'm tempted, I think I have a better chance of getting hurt by some other means, break a leg or something. Then where do I hide the gun? In a bush, under a log, or in the back of the ambulance somewhere?

Get caught, THEN I lose all my guns. No, I'm doing that.
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Like others mentioned, I would not bring it to the parks because it is a federal government property and we have to comply. Regardless if I have W&C I would not bring it unless the law states so.
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I plan on carrying (open) while I'm out in the back country of Glacier National Park. Just to avoid any issues I applied for my Utah CCW. Went to the class at Free State!
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Like others mentioned, I would not bring it to the parks because it is a federal government property and we have to comply. Regardless if I have W&C I would not bring it unless the law states so.
State law can't address carry in a national park so with a permit valid in that state you are good to go, just stay out of federal buildings on-site. Unlicensed open carry may even be an option depending on state law. IANAL
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State law can't address carry in a national park so with a permit valid in that state you are good to go, just stay out of federal buildings on-site. Unlicensed open carry may even be an option depending on state law. IANAL

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The way I understand current law, if one has a CCW permit in, say, Virginia, one can carry concealed in national parks in Virginia (or reciprocal states). But what about national parks in Maryland? Does state law keep anyone from carrying handguns? The idea of hiking or camping in national parks and not being able to carry a gun is outrageous.

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Is it a good idea to carry anyway and be discreet, or is it a bad idea?

Thanks!
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You'd be violating Federal law, subject to arrest by Federal LE, including US Park Police

the only way to be legal in a National Park would be with an unrestricted W&C permit.


Or carry within your restrictions. It's possible for some.
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There is NO Federal law prohibiting CCW. The Federal statute says state law where the park is located applies.

As Boundless mentioned, stay out of Federal buildings where Federal employees are regularly present, like visitor centers and/or concession areas.

bathrooms are ok
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What is a national parks card?






Or carry within your restrictions. It's possible for some.
true. i just couldn't think of a restriction that would allow it
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Just applied for my South Carolina CWP and I will be able to carry in any SC State park or any national park within SC. No federal building though.
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Hmmm, so my unrestricted Maryland permit gives me a green light in national parks in Maryland?

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Hmmm, so my unrestricted Maryland permit gives me a green light in national parks in Maryland?

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I wish that were true. Carry in national parks is up to the laws of the state it is in. For example, to carry in Acadia you have to have a Maine permit. Maryland law states specifically no carry in State or Federal parks even if you have an unrestricted W&C permit.


   
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