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Old May 21st, 2017, 09:57 AM #1
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Co-worker needs help ID'ing Rifle

Eric says this belonged to his father, a WWII navy vet.
I couldn't find a manufacturer's name or a date on it, but didn't try and remove the stock. Could only get the bolt carrier to close.

The muzzle looked almost like the size of a .22 but the chamber looked closer in size to a centerfire caliber? There was no daylight looking down the bore, so it's either heavily corroded or was non-firing used for training purposes.

I don't have much depth of knowledge with regards to C&R, so he now knows it appears to be a rusty old rifle from my 2 cents.

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Old May 21st, 2017, 10:04 AM #2
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Sorry, the link should be fixed, could you try again please?
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Cruddy Spanish 8mm Mauser?

Not a militaria guy, so just spitballin'
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I dunno man, the bayonet kind of looks like this:

http://worldbayonets.com/Bayonet_Ide...0/B1420-2.html
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The bayonet looks to be Japanese. Any markings on it at all? That said, the bayonet may not belong with the rifle. The Japanese did make many training rifles so that is my current guess pending markings of some sort.
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It's a Type I Japanese Arisaka/Carcano: https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...d.php?t=388778
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_I_Rifle

Made by Italy for use in Japan with the 6.5x50mm round. They were pretty much exclusively distributed to the Japanese Navy. That's why there's no mum or Japanese markings on it. That's a Type 30/35 bayonet that went with it.

Rarer than Arisakas from what I understand, but the condition on that one is well.... uuuuuugly.
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It's a Type I Japanese Arisaka/Carcano: https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...d.php?t=388778
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_I_Rifle

Made by Italy for use in Japan with the 6.5x50mm round. They were pretty much exclusively distributed to the Japanese Navy. That's why there's no mum or Japanese markings on it. That's a Type 30/35 bayonet that went with it.

Rarer than Arisakas from what I understand, but the condition on that one is well.... uuuuuugly.
Bingo - looks just like mine, except for the poor condition.
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That gun needs some serious TLC but I'd agree with the prior assessment of it being a Type 1 Arisaka.
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Agree with the above and will add that the bayonet looks to be a Type 30 training bayonet based on its construction.
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