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Old June 9th, 2016, 08:37 AM #1
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En banc Decision in Peruta -- a loss

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Old June 9th, 2016, 08:38 AM #2
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The en banc court affirmed the district courts’ judgments
and held that there is no Second Amendment right for
members of the general public to carry concealed firearms in
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Old June 9th, 2016, 08:42 AM #4
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the ammo box is coming soon my brothers and sisters
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On a cursory read the only small good thing I can say is at least they went out of their way to state they were only ruling on concealed carry and were not touching upon visible carry.

Sucks but it's the Ninth Circuit. Not surprised.
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Elections have consequences...

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We do not reach the question whether the Second
Amendment protects some ability to carry firearms in public,
such as open carry. That question was left open by the
Supreme Court in Heller, and we have no need to answer it
here. Because Plaintiffs challenge only policies governing
concealed carry, we reach only the question whether the
Second Amendment protects, in any degree, the ability to
carry concealed firearms in public. Based on the
overwhelming consensus of historical sources, we conclude
that the protection of the Second Amendment — whatever the
scope of that protection may be — simply does not extend to
the carrying of concealed firearms in public by members of
the general public.
The Second Amendment may or may not protect, to some
degree, a right of a member of the general public to carry
firearms in public. But the existence vel non of such a right,
and the scope of such a right, are separate from and
independent of the question presented here. We hold only
that there is no Second Amendment right for members of the
general public to carry concealed firearms in public.
Case: 10-56971, 06/09/2016, ID: 10007709, DktEntry: 333-1, Page 19 of 89
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Old June 9th, 2016, 08:47 AM #7
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I guess we will have G&S permits for voting, free speech and attending church as well right?
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I guess we will have G&S permits for voting, free speech and attending church as well right?
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hopefully a CERT petition will be forthcoming but with a 4-4 split, doesn't seem worth the effort.
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hopefully a CERT petition will be forthcoming but with a 4-4 split, doesn't seem worth the effort.
Gut check time for sure.

Big gamble.
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Not huge surprise. There is no right to concealed carry, while separately there is no right to open carry. Neat hat trick which allows the progressives to read bear out of the constitution.
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I'm not sure the courts are realizing that they are bleeding credibility fast.
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Activist judges don't seem to care.
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Womp Womp, but it was quicker than I thought...
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The Nichols OC case is now teed up at the 9th circuit. Will they actually allow for OC now or do Lucy with the football and now come up with reasons to deny that too?
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I wonder how this reason will affect Norman (FL OC).
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what do you think?.
Perfect summation.

They needed 190 pages to reach their conclusions? Jesus.
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This does not bode well for DC either...
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This does not bode well for DC either...
IANAL, but someone correct me if I am wrong, because of Parker, there is applicable outside the home guarantee. (For Parker & all SAF members as party to the suit; as applied). That guarantee did NOT mention how the district may administer the right, and that is oblivious what is at stake between Wrenn and the Pink Pistols' respective cases.


I am quite tired of the ruling class, they can all kiss my white hairy fat American ass.

Perhaps that letter from a concerned citizen telling the court to do their job actually worked. Even if it was the wrong way, they finally did it.


   
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