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Old September 15th, 2020, 05:59 PM #1
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Selling an undrilled solvent trap

My friend bought 2 10" aluminum solvent traps to make into suppressors. After a little more research, he doesn't want to drop the money on stamps to drill them.

Is there any reason he can't sell them as solvent traps to recoup his money? He hasn't drilled them, hasn't mounted them on a gun to see how it looks, nothing. I told him that he should be fine selling, he wants to make sure he won't get a visit from the ATF.

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My friend bought 2 10" aluminum solvent traps to make into suppressors. After a little more research, he doesn't want to drop the money on stamps to drill them.

Is there any reason he can't sell them as solvent traps to recoup his money? He hasn't drilled them, hasn't mounted them on a gun to see how it looks, nothing. I told him that he should be fine selling, he wants to make sure he won't get a visit from the ATF.

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Isn't an "undrilled solvent trap' and oil filter???
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Old September 15th, 2020, 06:18 PM #3
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IIRC the threaded adapter between a barrel and the tube is the part that would be considered a suppressor requiring a stamp and serial number IF it were screwed onto the barrel. Until that time, it's just a threaded pipe adapter. Perfectly legal to buy, sell and own as long as it isn't attached to a firearm.
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As long as nothing is drilled, they are simply parts. Threaded end cap, tube, stamped(but not drilled) baffles, end cap(not drilled). All just parts.
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What is the diameter of these traps? Are they baffles or monocores?
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Unless he’s got a lot of money in them, why not just toss them.

I think the whole solvent trap thing is a problem awaiting an unknown answer.

If they’re $20 each, why invite risk to recoup $40? I’d just dump them if he’s worried.

As above, it’s technically legal to own or sell them imo as well. But again, who thinks that .gov might not find their way around to folks who bought them...especially more than one. The old charge them (Solvent trap owners) and then guilty until proven innocent. A lousy game where your time and your money are draining away.

They probably cost more than $40 together but you get my point.
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I think they are 1.5" diameter 10" long. Stainless steel baffles, but aluminum tube and caps. He's got enough money in them that it would hurt to throw away.

I figured he would be fine, he bought them as parts he should be able to sell them as parts. Thanks all!

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Unless hes got a lot of money in them, why not just toss them.

I think the whole solvent trap thing is a problem awaiting an unknown answer.

If theyre $20 each, why invite risk to recoup $40? Id just dump them if hes worried.

As above, its technically legal to own or sell them imo as well. But again, who thinks that .gov might not find their way around to folks who bought them...especially more than one. The old charge them (Solvent trap owners) and then guilty until proven innocent. A lousy game where your time and your money are draining away.

They probably cost more than $40 together but you get my point.
But if you buy them to build and register them there should never be an issue
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The guy (gal) who buys it might be the ATF Agent.

Owning a solvent trap before you get the stamp is perfectly legal, except when it isn't:

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/at...-kit-business/


https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/fa...-fuel-filters/


https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/ge...ilencer-build/

Constructive intent is nebulous and vague but seems like its just enough to cost a lot in legal fees, far more than the parts are worth, if the guy/gal buying the parts happens to be an ATF agent trolling Armslist or whatever.

People who who say "it should never be an issue" are ignoring the many cases where it is apparently an issue. Keep in mind in our legal system you may be right, but it could cost you thousands to hire a lawyer to vindicate yourself.

There is also the fact that there are literally tons of these products on the market and I highly doubt they are worth more than the cost of a few boxes of ammo.
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I heard from someone in the JD that the ATFE was intercepting those things as they come in now and dropping the hammer on the suppliers of big shipments to people selling them in the US as they come in.
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