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Old September 4th, 2019, 10:17 PM #1
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Sun Article on ERPO Served in Pasadena

I apologize for reading the Sun, but at least I managed to find something relevant and not overly loaded with emotion. In this case, it seems they confiscated the target's father's guns, too, for a total of 146 guns confiscated. I just know some of you are thinking "amateur".

https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/cr...7ai-story.html

Does anyone here know this guy? Name sounds sort of familiar.
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Old September 4th, 2019, 10:21 PM #2
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He's a mouth breather, that says a lot right there...
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Iím just curious, what legal means would police have had to confiscate weapons and charge this guy prior to ERPO? I assume that if someone threatened shooting up his workplace before, and that threat could be substantiated and verified, the outcome may have been similar?
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And they took the fathers guns.

They should have taken their vehicle keys and gas cans too.

I hate this fvckin' state.
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The real question is how an ERPO was issued to begin with. I thought it could only be a relative or LEO. Now it looks like anyone can simply tell the LEO whatever they need to hear to get the ERPO. That is the alarming part and the part that was dismissed by so many during the legislative process.
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And they took the fathers guns.

They should have taken their vehicle keys and gas cans too.
If the father did not secure the firearms, and the firearms were just laying around. That would allow law enforcement to confiscate said firearms, because they probably had a warrant to seize all firearms found.
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If the father did not secure the firearms, and the firearms were just laying around. That would allow law enforcement to confiscate said firearms, because they probably had a warrant to seize all firearms found.
If you read the article you would have seen that the issue is that they are not sure who owns which guns. At least one is an AK and unfortunately no one is getting that one back. Hopefully someone cuts them a break on the transfer fees.
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If you read the article you would have seen that the issue is that they are not sure who owns which guns. At least one is an AK and unfortunately no one is getting that one back. Hopefully someone cuts them a break on the transfer fees.
Oh, I read the article.

The AK must be returned, if the father lawfully owned it prior to FSA2013. Otherwise, someone is in a heap of trouble.

If law enforcement made the father dump out the contents of the safe(s), that is completely wrong.
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If law enforcement made the father dump out the contents of the safe(s), that is completely wrong.
But I bet that is exactly what happened. You know, for the children.
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Officers learned via the Maryland Gun Center that Rutkowski had one handgun registered in Maryland and found five firearms locked in a safe Tuesday.
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