safecracker
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Freestate is Offering a New Hampshire CCW Course???
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And PA also accepts the TX NR permit. Something is fishy.
This is a solution looking for a problem
This is a solution looking for a problem
That is correct.
It's making business for a market that may be inclined to carry in PA or other places that observe it.
I'm not going to cast judgement on a business making use of an opportunity that recent popped up.
TX can't be taught anywhere except TX as I understand it.
I'm not going to cast judgement on a business making use of an opportunity that recent popped up.
TX can't be taught anywhere except TX as I understand it.
hogarth
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- Jun 13, 2009
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No, the point is you don't need a course, or prints, or even a photo for a NH permit. Just $100 and a stamp.
And NH requires no training. The flyer doesn't bother to mention that.
I have no issue with training, but the lack of actual facts seems intentional and seems kind of disingenuous to me.
just my .02
I have no issue with training, but the lack of actual facts seems intentional and seems kind of disingenuous to me.
just my .02
That's understood 200%. I have one coming in the mail.
They're offering PA specific info and general firearms safety stuff. I didn't take away that their course is a legal requirement for the NH permit from that sales pitch.
If people want the class, they can take the class. Anyone can go to the NH website to see how simple their process is.
Yeah, but to me it seems like they are in not being up front about the actual truth that no training is necessary
It seems intentionally inaccurate.
as I said, just my .02
It seems intentionally inaccurate.
as I said, just my .02
If Freestate is concealing that training isn't at all required for their permit, that's another thing.
Now, Freestate did use the potential for national reciprocity in a recent pitch for their Utah course, which I did think was a bit much, but this just isn't the same, in my opinion.
Now, Freestate did use the potential for national reciprocity in a recent pitch for their Utah course, which I did think was a bit much, but this just isn't the same, in my opinion.
IMO, the omission seems intentional and being used to attract business from uninformed people. Do you think they tell students at the start that NH requires no training, no photos and no prints?
somehow I doubt it.
call me a cynic.
somehow I doubt it.
call me a cynic.
And I see the NH application process is the first thing mentioned in that list of things in the class. It doesn't take much when filling out that application to know that NH just wants your basic info, whether or not you're prohibited, and a check.
I know NOTHING about state permits (naturally). I have no need. I looked at this "flyer" and I take from it that it's a mandatory course needed in order to get the NH permit. There are no if's, and's, or but's about it. But, no one would take the course if they were honest and said the course is not needed for the permit, but would be nice to have anyway just for the training.
SCAM
SCAM
i completely agree. A solution in search of a problem as I stated
It's capitalism. We know everything because we spend a ton of time on MDS and elsewhere. Others don't have a clue about laws or basic safety. Some people have no problem paying for someone knowledgeable to give them info.
We can give the NH thread a bump at any time, btw
why take a class on how to fill out an application? The omission of the actual requirements (or lack of them) seems intentional and disingenuous. If it's not a well known fact, why not be totally honest and post that info?? seems intentional and sleazy to me.
as I said, call me a cynic but they should be more transparent about the actual NH requirements. (or lack of them)
as I said, call me a cynic but they should be more transparent about the actual NH requirements. (or lack of them)
Why would they list "Prohibited areas/Pennsylvania specific" in the synopsis? IS this a PA training thing to get the NH? Now it's getting confusing. Maybe they just didn't know how to present this on the flyer?
smokescreen
Squaregrouper
Kragaphile
Reason #352 why Freestate is nothing more than Continental east- probably worse. They are conning people into spending money that doesn't need to be spent.
After my raffle won M&P transfer, I swore I would never set foot in there again and this solidifies that. They make up laws about transfer wait times, yet don't enforce actual laws; IE: MD approved handgun locks.
After my raffle won M&P transfer, I swore I would never set foot in there again and this solidifies that. They make up laws about transfer wait times, yet don't enforce actual laws; IE: MD approved handgun locks.
that's my feling as well. Why not put all the info out there in the email and let people decide for themselves?
The omission seems intentional and a bit disingenuous.
just my opinion of course.
YMMV
The omission seems intentional and a bit disingenuous.
just my opinion of course.
YMMV
My point was that if you learned in the beginning of the class that you didn't need the class for the permit and felt misled, wouldn't you leave the class or otherwise voice your displeasure?
For places that offer classes for rifles and shotguns, both of which can be purchased with zero training whatsoever, do they go out of their way to say how much that person doesn't need the class?
They're pitching it for those what want to carry in PA. How many of us know all the prohibited places or use of force laws in PA? Sure, handgunlaw.us and other sites are there for that info, but some just want it taught to them.
$100 for info presented in a class setting where you can ask questions?
What's so bad about that?
How many people even knew about NH permit at all, let alone that it works in PA before Freestate sent that email? Now some of those people are googling the permit. Some will learn fast that they don't need anything. Some will want it anyway.
Full disclosure, I have no pony in this fight. I don't go to Freestate. Just thought the reaction to their ad was interesting enough for some civil debate.
Cheers, guys.
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