Which to guard your house inside with

arbud · Oct 24, 2017

Here is a strange either or for you guys.
Which would you feel more comfortable in your house with if you had to defend yourself quickly.. No safe room and wait for police and no what you have please. Here are the 2 to pick from. Please just pick one. I am very proficient with either one.
45 cal Hi point carbine or Russian Makarov.
I have other goodies to guard my bedroom and kitchen just nothing right now if someone kicked in the front door. Thanks for your opinions

Mightydog · Oct 24, 2017

How's a mossburg and a Beretta 92fs with high cap mag? Your Hi Point and Markarov are not good for close in combat.

Ironnewt · Oct 24, 2017

I would go with the Hi-point. Better ammunition choices and I believe it will give you better results.

pbharvey · Oct 24, 2017

.45 carbine

twice the bullet weight at roughly the same velocity plus rifle>pistol any day of the week

thomfantomas · Oct 24, 2017

Uhhhh man ,id go with the Makarov.

TheOriginalMexicanBob · Oct 24, 2017

Whichever is closest.

John from MD · Oct 24, 2017

Makarov has very tiny sights and only holds 9 rounds. Hi Point is a little big to hide under a newspaper on the living room table. :rolleyes:

I would use the Makarov as it can be put into action faster.

BradMacc82 · Oct 24, 2017

As a former owner of a Hi-Point carbine, I'd take the carbine w/out hesitation.

The handguns may be the butt of a lot of jokes, and deservedly so in most cases. But their carbines, hands down, are rock-solid little bastards. **And if it doesn't fire for some reason, at least you have a good bludgeoning tool...

Minuteman · Oct 24, 2017

High-point. Or whichever one I know works.

iH8DemLibz · Oct 24, 2017

Since I thought the Makarov was a bad choice before, I have no choice, but to go with black, ugly, and more reliable.

Ranchero50 · Oct 24, 2017

Carbine, just because that aluminum front sight will mess you up when used as a spear.

mopar92 · Oct 24, 2017

pbharvey said:
.45 carbine

twice the bullet weight at roughly the same velocity plus rifle>pistol any day of the week

Rifle over pistol only works with rifles shooting rifle calibers.

Darkemp · Oct 24, 2017

arbud said:
Here is a strange either or for you guys.
Which would you feel more comfortable in your house with if you had to defend yourself quickly.. No safe room and wait for police and no what you have please. Here are the 2 to pick from. Please just pick one. I am very proficient with either one.
45 cal Hi point carbine or Russian Makarov.
I have other goodies to guard my bedroom and kitchen just nothing right now if someone kicked in the front door. Thanks for your opinions

Carbine, one hell of a club when it runs out of ammo.

davsco · Oct 24, 2017

skip a few restaurants and bars and with the money saved ($<600) buy a glock, giving you both capacity and reliability (and maneuverability).

redeemed.man · Oct 24, 2017

mopar92 said:
Rifle over pistol only works with rifles shooting rifle calibers.

Please explain. Without some qualifiers this statement just seems ridiculous. Perhaps you mean in close quarters? Certainly you don't mean from a ballistic perspective?

Darkemp · Oct 24, 2017

davsco said:
skip a few restaurants and bars and with the money saved ($<600) buy a glock, giving you both capacity and reliability (and maneuverability).

A valid point, especially for the generous. Offer to buy a round and all of sudden domestic beer drinkers become Scotch connoisseurs. All of a sudden you're left with a Glock check.

TheOriginalMexicanBob · Oct 24, 2017

mopar92 said:
Rifle over pistol only works with rifles shooting rifle calibers.

Don't buy that at all. I have an Olympic Arms M4 in .45 ACP. It's completely reliable and uncannily accurate to at least 50 yards. With a red dot sight on it and it makes for a truly formidable home defense tool. In a home defense scenario it's better than a rifle or a handgun. In a neighborhood where homes are close together it has less chance of penetrating to the neighbor's house...less blast...less recoil and considerable shock power compared to a handgun.

Everyone's situation is different. If you live in the boonies where there are no neighbors or other family members present...go for a rifle caliber.

mopar92 · Oct 24, 2017

boundlessdyad said:
Please explain. Without some qualifiers this statement just seems ridiculous. Perhaps you mean in close quarters? Certainly you don't mean from a ballistic perspective?

Pistol calibers are optimized to perform in pistol length barrels. There is a slight gain in going to barrel lengths around ~10" for most common pistol calibers, but with a 16" barrel some actually begin to lose velocity from friction. Most popular PCC's are adaptations or rechamberings of popular rifles (see AR's in 9mm) for the same length, weight, and bulk I'd just roll with 5.56.

For more unbiased info see the switch from the 80's of SWAT, SF and various other LE and MIL organizations from the HK MP5 to the M4.

Now PCC's do have one gain in reduced hearing damage but that's a toss up on personal preference.

mopar92 · Oct 24, 2017

TheOriginalMexicanBob said:
Don't buy that at all. I have an Olympic Arms M4 in .45 ACP. It's completely reliable and uncannily accurate to at least 50 yards. With a red dot sight on it and it makes for a truly formidable home defense tool. In a home defense scenario it's better than a rifle or a handgun. In a neighborhood where homes are close together it has less chance of penetrating to the neighbor's house...less blast...less recoil and considerable shock power compared to a handgun.

Everyone's situation is different. If you live in the boonies where there are no neighbors or other family members present...go for a rifle caliber.

See various threads comparing errant shots and excessive penetration with 5.56 vs various calibers.

DC-W · Oct 24, 2017

At the end of the day, the most important weapon is the one between your ears.

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