Special Thanks to the Democrats for Alienating the 40% of Gun Owners

eARl · Nov 5, 2014

I voted for the first time in my life and I am 35 years old. Of course, I voted hogan knowing he was backed by the nra. My new found love of firearms was a major reason for me voting.

SoMD_Gen4 · Nov 5, 2014

In the words of the Nature Boy, Rick Flair......

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

GBMaryland · Nov 5, 2014

Robert said:
Perhaps, but I just can't see 1.08% of the population making up the +4% margin, and I disagree with it being close.. Hogan won big IMO.

So, looking at the overall numbers it's clear that in most cases democrats just voted democrat, except for the governor.

I'm not sure that most people really see the Attorney General as a big deal. Let alone know who Brain Frosh is....

However, considering that 40% of Marylanders own firearms... and firearms owners do tend to be very vocal... it's likely that they had a tangible impact on the governors seat.

Hogan won by ~80,000 votes... it's not hard to imagine that our ranks could have filled that gap.

- Republicans
- Independents
- Centrist (likely, gun owning) Democrats

I personally even had some DIE HARD leftist that own guns tell me how they were struggling with the fact that they were voting for Hogan. ...and I'm sure they voted democrat straight down the rest of the ticket.

GBMaryland · Nov 5, 2014

pwoolford said:
That and his campaign sucked. Nobody I spoke with could articulate one single idea Brown had. Well, other than white people are the devil.

The UMD Clinton / Brown event was fairly empty.

I don't think that the University population cared for him... nor did anyone else in the PG county area... At least enough to show up.

E.Shell · Nov 5, 2014

This would be a good time to send Socialist Comrade Mikulski a note telling her how much we look forward to 2016.

RRHemi · Nov 5, 2014

I would argue that uninformed gun owning Dems probably did vote for Hogan but due to their ignorance pulled the D on the AG. The opposer didn't even campaign!

Half-cocked · Nov 5, 2014

The 2A issue absolutely DID have an effect. I personally know of 2 gun owning democrats (not DINOs, real lifelong democrats) who were absolutely PO'ed when they learned SB281 meant they would have to pay for a "license" to be "permitted" to exercise their right to purchase a handgun.

eventhorizon · Nov 5, 2014

Still haven't seen MOM yet...perhaps he's hiding in Frosh's basement? :innocent0

The sphinx · Nov 5, 2014

Robert said:
I'll probably get flamed for this, but I don't think that SB281 had anything to do with the governorship this election.

Marylanders are being crushed with higher and higher taxes and fees. We are the laughing stock of the nation for absurd and over reaching taxation. In reality I believe this election was won on 2 reasons.

1) Taxes
2) Brown

Brown has done a absolute terrible job, and that fact was incredibly easy to convey.

Hogan is going to have a difficult time, as the make up of MD houses an senate did not change all that much. I'm praying he doesn't not end up like Ehrlich.

Agree 100%.

Vile Shadow · Nov 5, 2014

S&W19 said:
I think you are mostly correct, but I have to think SB281 might have motivated some. Even if it's only a point worth of the difference, it's something.

It damn sure motivated me. :mad54:

SummitCnty · Nov 5, 2014

I know a lot of D's that voted for Hogan. The bombardment of taxes is what pushed most of them over to the other side. The rain tax was the nail in the codon for them.

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Brooklyn · Nov 5, 2014

Holly f,,k can we let the Deocats do the' gun control was not an issue 'spin? They made it an issue ...I d
No worky we use that.

We can use all the leverage we can get..

The friendly fire around here is hurting us.

We do our fight they do thiers.

15carbine15 · Nov 5, 2014

Robert said:
Perhaps, but I just can't see 1.08% of the population making up the +4% margin, and I disagree with it being close.. Hogan won big IMO.

Hogan did win big, because many ex democrats like myself voted for him. A great amount of us are just fed up with the taxes for one, and me personally with the gun laws. Brown never had my vote since I hated omalley agenda and Obama the liar.

Don't mean to make the gun club feel less special but I don't think the hogan big victory had anything to do with him winning, let alone winning big, well not ANYTHING to do with him winning... I shouldn't say that, Many of us blacks and other democrats were and are tired of omalley and Obama. There will be alot more votes to be had and people of my kind to be converted going down the road if this is played right.

pitpawten · Nov 5, 2014

eARl said:
I voted for the first time in my life and I am 35 years old. Of course, I voted hogan knowing he was backed by the nra. My new found love of firearms was a major reason for me voting.

Everyone has something that sets them on fire. I know that this issue is what got me to vote in state elections.

Typically I was presidential only...

Robert · Nov 5, 2014

15carbine15 said:
Hogan did win big, because many ex democrats like myself voted for him. A great amount of us are just fed up with the taxes for one, and me personally with the gun laws. Brown never had my vote since I hated omalley agenda and Obama the liar.

Don't mean to make the gun club feel less special but I don't think the hogan big victory had anything to do with him winning, let alone winning big. Many of us blacks were and are tired of omalley and Obama. There will be alot more votes to be had and people of my kind to be converted going down the road if this is played right.

nedsurf · Nov 5, 2014

I would say it had some part in it. Yes, taxes were the issue that were the 800# gorilla. As a "13er", I was awakened and got engaged and politically active. This led to more scrutiny of the administration. The more I looked, the less I liked. I spread the word to others on that. I donated money. The FSA 2013 had an impact.

If it had effect or not doesn't matter with our message. Publicly, we claim it as a win due to us and we have more clout in Annapolis because of it.

Docster · Nov 5, 2014

csanc123 said:
Let's not kid ourselves. It was not SB281 that got Larry Hogan elected (otherwise Frosh would not have made it to be the AG). It was the deluge of taxes and the economy overall.

Yea, I gotta agree here. As much as I'd like us to take credit for all of this, as is being reported, there were many, many disheartened Dems who voted for Hogan. Even mentions of people who voted Republican (Hogan only) for the first time in their lives. If they hadn't, he would likely have not gotten elected despite all the gun owners in Maryland. All those Dems still voted for Frosh, Hoyer, Ruppertsburger, Cummings; and the Bongino race is still too close to call as of 5:15 this a.m.

The Maryland Democratic 'machine' is still intact and Hogan must deal with that. Hogan hasn't said or done anything to show that he is strongly pro-gun. His election may just be a respite from all the anti-gun sentiment in the legislature while he maintains focus on his core issues.

trickg · Nov 5, 2014

pwoolford said:
That and his campaign sucked. Nobody I spoke with could articulate one single idea Brown had. Well, other than white people are the devil.

The only clear ideas that came out of Brown's campaign, from my perspective were:

I'm going to fund pre-K - Hogan hates preschoolers
Guns are bad - Hogan is against firearms safety
Maryland has a AAA bond rating (what that had to do with him specifically is anyone's guess)
Hogan wants to give your money to the corporations

That's about all I got out of it.

Jim12 · Nov 5, 2014

Early on, there seemed to be almost no Republican interest in even fielding an AG candidate to oppose Frosh. IIRC, Pritzker stepped in just to avoid him running unopposed, probably drawing the early and natural conclusion that the dems would sweep.

In hindsight, maybe both the State Repubs and Pritzker threw in the towel too early -- like from the start.

Frosh has zero prosecutorial and/or criminal law experience, sparse litigation experience, unknown (> zero?) management experience, and now will probably be a total thorn in the Governor's side for the next 4 years. Other than that, he's the perfect guy for the job. :sarcasm:

Wouldn't be surprised to start seeing AG opinions from the outset that Governor Hogan's proposed tax and spending cuts, government reorganization efforts, etc. are illegal or unconstitutional.

Phillipw39 · Nov 5, 2014

Amen... We should get a more friendly tax and business environment, now lets hope for better 2A protections and maybe the loosening concealed carry regulations.

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