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Old December 3rd, 2019, 05:20 PM #1121
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Old December 3rd, 2019, 05:28 PM #1122
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Maybe someone has mentioned this already: I think voting to moot it out would give Roberts some political good will with the libs if he is to become the new Kennedy. He could be seeking that before going with Alito/Kav/Gorsuch/Thomas in a larger "text, history, and tradition" opinion in another case pending cert (God willing).

There is so much speculation here though, so what the hell do I know.

In terms of hand-wringing, this is going to be worse (and longer) than the Kavanaugh confirmation. Woof.
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Old December 3rd, 2019, 05:36 PM #1123
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Speaking of Kavanaugh, he didn't speak. I'm assuming his Thomas-like reticence is because he knows how this is going to play out, continues to want to stay on Roberts good side, and is saving his powder for a different 2A fight.
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Old December 3rd, 2019, 05:54 PM #1124
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Someone on Dave Hardy's blog brought up a good point about the Firearm Owners Protection Act and how NYC/NJ regularly arrest law abiding people delayed at the airport who claim and later try to recheck their baggage with a firearm. People have been arrested for it. NYC has no respect for that federal law so why believe their promises now regarding state law or the unconstitutional permitting process. I really hope SCOTUS takes this case even though the conventional wisdom believes its moot.
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Someone on Dave Hardy's blog brought up a good point about the Firearm Owners Protection Act and how NYC/NJ regularly arrest law abiding people delayed at the airport who claim and later try to recheck their baggage with a firearm. People have been arrested for it. NYC has no respect for that federal law so why believe their promises now regarding state law or the unconstitutional permitting process. I really hope SCOTUS takes this case even though the conventional wisdom believes its moot.
I caught also the question of someone going to NJ to a range, stopping at Mom’s on the way. The FOPA loopholes in NJ came to mind.
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Old December 3rd, 2019, 06:11 PM #1126
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The question presented is:

Whether the City's ban on transporting a licensed, locked, and unloaded handgun to a home or shooting range outside city limits is consistent with the Second Amendment, the Commerce Clause, and the constitutional right to travel.

Is the case still moot considering the question presented and NYC's historical treatment of people travelling through the local airports?
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The question presented is:

Whether the City's ban on transporting a licensed, locked, and unloaded handgun to a home or shooting range outside city limits is consistent with the Second Amendment, the Commerce Clause, and the constitutional right to travel.

Is the case still moot considering the question presented and NYC's historical treatment of people travelling through the local airports?
FOPA is not at issue in the case. It would take an arrest of someone in disregard of FOPA to bring that issue before the courts. The 2d Cir. (NY) already has bad precedent on that point. See Torraco v. Port Authority of New York, 6125 F.3d 129 (2d Cir. 2010).
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LKB, who witnessed the oral arguments, offers his opinions here:


https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/de...urt-arguments/
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He's pretty much spot on IMO. The MSM is trying to spin this as "The justices are leaning toward dropping the case," but I could have told you before orals that the 4 lefties would try and moot the case. Just because they asked most questions and took up most of the time still only is 4 votes.

As far as Roberts goes if he's worried about the MSM and the beltway, it's going to be far worse for him siding for public carry than it is for ruling against the NYC transportation ban. This way they can make a ruling that possibly sends those other cases back to the appeals courts and they knock down the may-issue statutes.
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Very Very Interesting reading Stoveman.
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