Ideal Rifle For Current Situation

John from MD · Jun 1, 2020

grimnar15 said:
What kind of ammo? Often wondered about the viability of a 9mm for an do it all purpose carbine/pistol.

A mix of Hornady Critical Duty and Federal 135gn Hydroshok.

Atrox88 · Jun 1, 2020

K31 said:
So you're talking like a pirate, does that mean blunderbuss?

Thank you. I needed a laugh this morning.

bbrown · Jun 1, 2020

Another thing to keep in mind is that, if the police get involved in your defensive situation, they'll likely confiscate the weapon(s) you used until the resulting case is settled. So, do you really want to use your best weapon(s), or perhaps rather your most reliable but easiest to replace?

DutchV · Jun 1, 2020

Where I live, a Ruger PC carbine in 9mm is enough. I don't have a line of sight (or possible shot) longer than fifty yards. And having the same mags as a Glock 17 could be convenient.

SkiPatrolDude · Jun 1, 2020

bbrown said:
Another thing to keep in mind is that, if the police get involved in your defensive situation, they'll likely confiscate the weapon(s) you used until the resulting case is settled. So, do you really want to use your best weapon(s), or perhaps rather your most reliable but easiest to replace?

While I respect and understand this argument, I don't agree with it.

If my life is on the line, i'm reaching for whatever I have, but will reach for the best I got.

That said, my Browning O/U will stay in the closet for now.

For me the answer to this is simple, an AR15. Preferably two or more.

Ammo Jon · Jun 1, 2020

I think my 7.5” AR15 is sufficient. Low key enough to fit in a book bag.

DutchV · Jun 1, 2020

If you're making choices, pick the loudest one. Don't use a suppressor. A big kaboom or two tells rioters that the party's over.

Jed195 · Jun 1, 2020

DutchV said:
If you're making choices, pick the loudest one. Don't use a suppressor. A big kaboom or two tells rioters that the party's over.

That was my thought...SOCOM 16 is my go to short boomer.

grimnar15 · Jun 1, 2020

DutchV said:
If you're making choices, pick the loudest one. Don't use a suppressor. A big kaboom or two tells rioters that the party's over.

That’s a good point, maybe in those Situations a loudener is a better deterrence then a silencer.

Rebel59 · Jun 1, 2020

No shoties? Thought about taking an old police S&W along for my late ride home from work.

grimnar15 · Jun 1, 2020

Rebel59 said:
No shoties? Thought about taking an old police S&W along for my late ride home from work.

You’ll likely have to fire from behind the steering wheel. I’d add an old S&W 357 3” revolver For that purpose.

Rebel59 · Jun 1, 2020

grimnar15 said:
You’ll likely have to fire from behind the steering wheel. I’d add an old S&W 357 3” revolver For that purpose.

Forgot to mention the roof in the jeep folds back. Like the revolver idea, no hot casing down my neck

Czechnologist · Jun 1, 2020

Tungsten · Jun 1, 2020

If you are in a Ford Festiva, then definitely don't go with a shotty. The recoil may stall the car.

If you are in something more like a Honda Passport, then I say pop up through the sunroof and use belt fed.

Doc1964 · Jun 1, 2020

i like my glock 17L and my KELTEC sub 2000 rifle in the glock 9 mm version. the 10,17,33 mags are interchangeable between them. plus the sub2000 folder up to only 18" so it fits in a backpack or laptop case. no one sees you walking with a rife case.

N3uka · Jun 1, 2020

Going Old School

TreadNot · Jun 1, 2020

Me? Basic AR with 75gn BTHP.

Rebel59 · Jun 1, 2020

N3uka said:
Going Old School

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That's the ticket.... need one for each hand and an ostrich feather for the hat.

alucard0822 · Jun 1, 2020

DutchV said:
If you're making choices, pick the loudest one. Don't use a suppressor. A big kaboom or two tells rioters that the party's over.

Self defense laws don't get suspended with a riot, it's not the Purge. You will end up more than likely facing a DA, and if you make mistakes a Judge and jury will be waiting for you, same as if someone tried to rob you, carjack you, or any other violent crime during more peaceful times. If you have to defend yourself from an imminent and deadly threat, most likely it will be by targeting your attackers ONLY at close range, a can will help you keep your hearing, and situational awareness to help you escape to safety. Shooting indiscriminately into a crowd will probably end in a murder trial, "warning shots", or using deadly force when not defending your life from an attack right then and there will probably also end on the wrong side of a trial. Of course all that is provided you try to stay out of trouble in the first place, stuck in traffic as a mob attacks cars, staying in your home or business etc keeps with several "reasonable man" arguments common in SD legal defense. Good chance if you claim you are out "walking your dog" in the middle of a riot, and live 30 mi away, you probably created a LOT of legal challenges for yourself, and good chance it's going to be argued you came to a riot looking for a fight.

Alea Jacta Est · Jun 1, 2020

alucard0822 said:
Self defense laws don't get suspended with a riot, it's not the Purge. You will end up more than likely facing a DA, and if you make mistakes a Judge and jury will be waiting for you, same as if someone tried to rob you, carjack you, or any other violent crime during more peaceful times. If you have to defend yourself from an imminent and deadly threat, most likely it will be by targeting your attackers ONLY at close range, a can will help you keep your hearing, and situational awareness to help you escape to safety. Shooting indiscriminately into a crowd will probably end in a murder trial, "warning shots", or using deadly force when not defending your life from an attack right then and there will probably also end on the wrong side of a trial. Of course all that is provided you try to stay out of trouble in the first place, stuck in traffic as a mob attacks cars, staying in your home or business etc keeps with several "reasonable man" arguments common in SD legal defense. Good chance if you are out walking your dog in the middle of a riot, and live 30 mi away, you probably created a LOT of legal challenges for yourself.

...so chasing the MFrs down after they’ve tried to waylay you and kill you...that’s NG?

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