VP9 vs P10C

Hoons · May 4, 2020

If you could only choose one, which one would you pick?

Blaster229 · May 4, 2020

Well, you mean the full size VP9? Or the SK. Which is the compact version most resembles the P10c?

I made the VP9 my go to everything gun. Range, home defense, my roaming about the property pistol, carry gun when I don't feel like my G43X.

I have about 2k rounds through mine without a hiccup. Next to my HK45c, it's the most accurate pistol.

If I had the choice of getting a CZ for free or paying for the HK, I'd buy the HK.
It's my end of the world pistol.

HK makes probably the best pistol in the world.

danb · May 4, 2020

CZ makes great pistols .... but I don't know what went wrong with the P10C. HK VP9 all day.

Captain Waggles · May 5, 2020

Hk for me. I carried my VP9 for work, love shooting it, and put in the Lazy Wolf trigger and Hk's 5in barrel and slide set. Also my first handgun.

Buster Brown · May 5, 2020

Thats a tough choice. To me the p10c just barely edges out the hk. The vp9 has a little more muzzle flip, can hydro lock when submerged in water and parts and magazines are expensive. When it comes to HK legendary reliability, even HK says their hammer fired guns are the best.

woodline · May 5, 2020

Blaster229 said:
Well, you mean the full size VP9? Or the SK. Which is the compact version most resembles the P10c?

Regular VP9 with the 4.1" barrel and 15+1 standard capacity is directly comparable in size to CZ P10c. P10s and VP9SK are directly comparable in size as well.

OP: having shot both a good bit and owning a Gen1 P10c, I think the VP9 starts off a bit smoother with the P10c being significantly stiffer. P10c is a more robust design, but required a firm hand to operate the mag release and slide stop/release for the first 1000 rounds or so. Both sit well in the hand and have good triggers out of the box. VP9 feels cozy and P10c feels like it is glued there. Mag release on the VP9 I tried was essentially on the trigger guard, which was easy to use but something that took a little getting used to and felt like it might catch on something (perception probably moreso than reality). Newer U.S. made P10c is slightly less ambi with the left and right side mag release deleted in favor of swappable. As a southpaw with Glock Stockholm syndrome I like that better and care more about the right side slide catch/release being good. I think the U.S. made gen2 is a more refined firearm and most will like it better than gen1 Czech made. P10c has ever so slightly longer magell and can accommodate flush fit (ish) 17 round mags.

I think both are great guns but only the P10c spoke to me. That is likely my bias for Czech guns coming out. VP9 will likely feel better in the hand at the gun store to most people.
H&K doesn't do much for me most of the time, except for the MP7. Fun to shoot, annoying to clean. Mags and parts for VP9 cost more.

Overall I think they either would serve OP well.

Blaster229 · May 5, 2020

After all, HK did make the first polymer and striker fired pistol.

PowPow · May 5, 2020

Blaster229 said:
After all, HK did make the first polymer and striker fired pistol.

Not knowing what it was, I went looking. I found this about the VP70:

https://blog.gunassociation.org/first-polymer-and-striker-pistol/

Shamr0ck · May 5, 2020

I’m m in the market for another pistol and one of the challenges I’ve had in the past with HKs is spare part, magazine availability/price.

Am I looking in the wrong places? (HK direct and TopGun Supply)

One of the pervasive arguments for glock has been aftermarket support and parts availability. I waited over 3 months for some Sig parts when refurbishing the 229/226 LEO trade ins so I’m not interested in buying into a pistol which will be challenging to maintain and service with parts... these were project pistols not HD or carry options so I could ‘afford’ the delay.

I love my P30 and 45ct and wouldn’t mind another HK. Also like my PPQ, sigs and 1911s but don’t have a sense for mag/part availability for walther, polymer sigs. 1911s shouldn’t be an issue, but maybe the 2011 support will be a little thin...

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Blaster229 · May 5, 2020

Buster Brown said:
Thats a tough choice. To me the p10c just barely edges out the hk. The vp9 has a little more muzzle flip, can hydro lock when submerged in water and parts and magazines are expensive. When it comes to HK legendary reliability, even HK says their hammer fired guns are the best.

So, how did you measure that "muzzle flip"?

And explain "hydrolock" in a pistol that is not an engine. how did you test this?

SkiPatrolDude · May 5, 2020

I can't speak for the P10 series by my VP9 is the pistol I shoot the best out of anything I own (glocks, sigs, beretta's mainly). As far as I know every HK leaves the factory sighted in, which is a plus in my eyes.

I have around 5K rounds through mine. I experienced a few stovepipes in the first 300 rds using 115gr range ammo. Switched to 124gr for a few thousand rounds and now it eats everything including steel.

I can routinely hit an 8 inch steel gong at 80 yards on my friends property. The trigger has a nice two stage feel, allowing for accurate slow fire, but is smooth enough for rapid fire as well.

All that being said you really cannot go wrong with either.

guzma393 · May 5, 2020

I had to choose between a glock19 gen5 or a vp9 for a first general handgun purchase. I went with the vp9 because it felt more ergonomic and more ambidextrous (i actually like the paddle mag release) with all the pro's of what people have said so far. As far as cons go, mags are pricey and came across a bunch of "hypothetical" mud test vids showing the vp9 not being as reliable as other handguns in the field when tossed in mud and sand...

Realistically, i won't be tossing my guns in mud and sand or be in a situation of trench warfare anytime soon, so I'm perfectly happy with it. I was thinking about getting nightsights to replace the photo-luminescent ones, but I figured a short flash with my phone line makes them glow as bright as day.

mattonmission · May 27, 2020

Does anyone else find the grip texture on the CZ P10C to be overly aggressive?

JPG · May 27, 2020

Shamr0ck said:
I’m m in the market for another pistol and one of the challenges I’ve had in the past with HKs is spare part, magazine availability/price.

Am I looking in the wrong places? (HK direct and TopGun Supply)

One of the pervasive arguments for glock has been aftermarket support and parts availability. I waited over 3 months for some Sig parts when refurbishing the 229/226 LEO trade ins so I’m not interested in buying into a pistol which will be challenging to maintain and service with parts... these were project pistols not HD or carry options so I could ‘afford’ the delay.

I love my P30 and 45ct and wouldn’t mind another HK. Also like my PPQ, sigs and 1911s but don’t have a sense for mag/part availability for walther, polymer sigs. 1911s shouldn’t be an issue, but maybe the 2011 support will be a little thin...

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This is a good place to start

https://www.hkpro.com/

woodline · May 27, 2020

mattonmission said:
Does anyone else find the grip texture on the CZ P10C to be overly aggressive?

Yeah it's pretty aggressive. You can knock it down a bit with a few minutes of work though.

rockstarr · May 27, 2020

Good price to pay for a p-10C or F ?

I might need the F as the C felt a bit small. My last finger was hanging off the bottom a bit.

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