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Old January 6th, 2019, 03:53 PM #21
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I respect the people and premise of the PP.. that said, I have heard first hand from liberal delegates that the only thing the PP brings them is laughter..I think it would take 10s of thousands of protesters to make them stand up and take it seriously. I'm not saying it should stop..I just their are other means of protest that should also be incorporated into MDS repertoire. EVEN if it means open defiance and civil disobedience.
I'm not sure what it's going to take. I remember a few thousand of us showed up and lined up to testify for the BS they ended us showing down our throats in 2013. That same year I think something like 80K showed up for a superbowl parade in Baltimore. I really don't think the average Marylander really gives a $hit. Very sad.
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Old January 6th, 2019, 03:53 PM #22
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noncompliance in silence is equal to letting the schoolyard bully push you around and then talking to your friends about it in the safety of your home after school, only to be bullied the next day and repeating the talk with your friends.

it does not change the fact that you are pushed around and can only speak out in privacy.


in reality, you need to throw sand in the face of the bully and kick him in the nuts if he does not listen to you the first time you tell him to stop infringing on your rights. then he will question if he wants to bully you again.


when you do noncompliance in silence as most do, all it does it let them give out 1 felony count at a time to individuals


think about this:
you have a job in a plant that gives 1 30 min break every 4 hours
you and your coworkers want a 10 min break every 2 hours and a 20 min break every 4 from start of day.
you all decide that on your own you will just go ahead and individually take 10 in break after 2 hours and then go back to work.
its unorganized and each doing their own thing
a few get caught not working for a period of 10 in after 2 hours
they get suspended from work
the rest fall in line and go back to their break every 4 hours from start of day.
they could have gotten a different result if ALL workers decided to collectively and openly oppose and insist by going outside together after 2 hours for 10 minutes and then returning to work. the employer would not fire the entirety of the workforce for a ten minute break and you would have set a new standard. you must stand in solidarity or you will fall alone.
I'm sorry, but that horse left the barn a long, long time ago.
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Old January 6th, 2019, 03:56 PM #23
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Same here. New Year's resolution.
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noncompliance in silence is equal to letting the schoolyard bully push you around and then talking to your friends about it in the safety of your home after school, only to be bullied the next day and repeating the talk with your friends.

it does not change the fact that you are pushed around and can only speak out in privacy.


in reality, you need to throw sand in the face of the bully and kick him in the nuts if he does not listen to you the first time you tell him to stop infringing on your rights. then he will question if he wants to bully you again.


when you do noncompliance in silence as most do, all it does it let them give out 1 felony count at a time to individuals


think about this:
you have a job in a plant that gives 1 30 min break every 4 hours
you and your coworkers want a 10 min break every 2 hours and a 20 min break every 4 from start of day.
you all decide that on your own you will just go ahead and individually take 10 in break after 2 hours and then go back to work.
its unorganized and each doing their own thing
a few get caught not working for a period of 10 in after 2 hours
they get suspended from work
the rest fall in line and go back to their break every 4 hours from start of day.
they could have gotten a different result if ALL workers decided to collectively and openly oppose and insist by going outside together after 2 hours for 10 minutes and then returning to work. the employer would not fire the entirety of the workforce for a ten minute break and you would have set a new standard. you must stand in solidarity or you will fall alone.
Are YOU going to walk up to Frosh / the cops / any authority figure, and say you are breaking the law?

Out of your 20 odd posts here, the great majority are 'the government sucks and is all powerful', 'protesting in silence is worthless', and assorted other opinions that contribute very little, overall.

About the only thing you wrote that I can support is this:

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... I'd rather not have my rights be infringed and maintain my own security without a 20 min lag from call to coos on site. Let's face it. If the reason you are calling the cops is because there is someone you can't defend against you should probably have a gun to sway things in your favor. If the criminal has a gun then at least you have a level playing field. If you have to wait any time for your own defense then YOU did not take control of your own security and couple potentially be harmed because you failed to prepare .....
At least you haven't been rude to anyone.
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If things continue the way they are, eventually every gun owner in the country is going to be forced to comply or fight..there will be no middle ground..so, are we going to slough off our responsibility to fight now, or force our children and grandchildren to fight because we stood by and hid in our basements? This isn't just about guns..our enemies on the left (and regardless how you feel, they ARE our enemies) want to replace our current free market economy with socialism, they want to control us from cradle to grave and they want a monopoly on power..none of which they can do without permission from the American gun owner..so bury your heads in the ground all you'd like. .they are still coming for your guns and your freedom. .if you are not actively pushing back you're part of the problem..
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I'm not sure what it's going to take. I remember a few thousand of us showed up and lined up to testify for the BS they ended us showing down our throats in 2013. That same year I think something like 80K showed up for a superbowl parade in Baltimore. I really don't think the average Marylander really gives a $hit. Very sad.
I was thinking about that, too. There were 1000's of people in Annapolis and they rammed it. You are also correct that more people care about sports than what rights are being taken because the Government has made it so we have to work so hard - 2 jobs many times to take care of our families, kids and so relaxation comes in the form of government generated entertainment - like sports. It's part of the plan. They are going to do what they want, when they want and all the while,as you always say "bread and circuses" for the peasants.
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Are YOU going to walk up to Frosh / the cops / any authority figure, and say you are breaking the law?

That is why it needs to be a concerted effort. There is power in numbers - power to the people! The Government works for us, remember?

Out of your 20 odd posts here, the great majority are 'the government sucks and is all powerful', 'protesting in silence is worthless', and assorted other opinions that contribute very little, overall.

About the only thing you wrote that I can support is this:



At least you haven't been rude to anyone.
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When caught behind enemy lines I can understand silence but even in silence those behind enemy lines must do whatever possible to sway the views of politicians and the public that the second amendment is a civil right.

All gun owners need to do whatever they can do to advance the cause, the problem is IMO, is most do little to nothing.

Non compliance is easy enough. Donate donate donate that’s easy enough. Call your reps, write and email them. Go see them. If you can join the PP do so. If you can’t then do whatever you can. Donate time at election time. Put up signs...
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So you're good with keeping your non compliance to yourself instead of fighting...sure glad our founding fathers didn't see it that way..only cowards dig a hole and bury theirr heads..they are coming for your guns too..guess you will hand them over
Are you going to feed people's family while they are in jail? Pay the mortgage? Pay for college? No. Name calling from neckbeards is a dime a dozen on the internet. In real life, smart people avail themselves of ALL their constitutional rights and STFU.
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