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Where is Hogan on G&S reform????
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< Hogan
- Dec 22, 2009
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Hogan created a commission to attack the problem. Hogan is looking for a Constitutional amendment for next year that would be used to restore some order to the process.....this is gonna be a tough nut to crack.....
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/politics/blog/bs-md-redistricting-commission-20150915-story.html
Matlack
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- Dec 15, 2008
- 8,557
True no specifics were mentioned.
Three
's up! I suspect that at least 50% of the general population can be convinced that firearms, in the hands of honest folks, aren't the problem. It's up to us to make that happen.
Negative speculation doesn't get us far. Why not just wait and see what he does or doesn't do? Time, after all, will tell.
Hopalong
Man of Many Nicknames
Man, I can tell it's been a while since I've posted here. I kept trying to "like' certain posts. 
Bottom line is this: The approach everyone, including myself, hoped Hogan would take (i.e. instructing MSP to allow self defense as G&S without the current arbitrary supporting paperwork) got shot down. He can't arbitrarily change the law itself, so that leaves shuffling up the handgun permit board, which he's working on, and fixing some issues with MSP interpretation of COMAR, which he is also working on with placement of new MSP leadership. I realize that both of these changes are temporary ones that can be undone, but once we get a larger number of carry permits with simple self-defense (i.e. no supporting paperwork, just exercising Second Amendment rights), we have a much stronger standing in court if/when future governors come along and undo them.
We had a long shot at a quick solution. It didn't work out. That doesn't mean the game is over.
And given his performance to date, if it keeps on this trajectory I'd say his odds of winning a second term are very good.
Bottom line is this: The approach everyone, including myself, hoped Hogan would take (i.e. instructing MSP to allow self defense as G&S without the current arbitrary supporting paperwork) got shot down. He can't arbitrarily change the law itself, so that leaves shuffling up the handgun permit board, which he's working on, and fixing some issues with MSP interpretation of COMAR, which he is also working on with placement of new MSP leadership. I realize that both of these changes are temporary ones that can be undone, but once we get a larger number of carry permits with simple self-defense (i.e. no supporting paperwork, just exercising Second Amendment rights), we have a much stronger standing in court if/when future governors come along and undo them.
We had a long shot at a quick solution. It didn't work out. That doesn't mean the game is over.
And given his performance to date, if it keeps on this trajectory I'd say his odds of winning a second term are very good.
Brooklyn
I stand with John Locke.
I will alert the media that you are displeased. Carry on.
Welcome back!Man, I can tell it's been a while since I've posted here. I kept trying to "like' certain posts.
Bottom line is this: The approach everyone, including myself, hoped Hogan would take (i.e. instructing MSP to allow self defense as G&S without the current arbitrary supporting paperwork) got shot down. He can't arbitrarily change the law itself, so that leaves shuffling up the handgun permit board, which he's working on, and fixing some issues with MSP interpretation of COMAR, which he is also working on with placement of new MSP leadership. I realize that both of these changes are temporary ones that can be undone, but once we get a larger number of carry permits with simple self-defense (i.e. no supporting paperwork, just exercising Second Amendment rights), we have a much stronger standing in court if/when future governors come along and undo them.
We had a long shot at a quick solution. It didn't work out. That doesn't mean the game is over.
And given his performance to date, if it keeps on this trajectory I'd say his odds of winning a second term are very good.
Brooklyn
I stand with John Locke.
Actually no.. thanks for the laugh however.
Straightshooter
Ultimate Member
Welcome back. MDS is almost like the movie "Groundhog Day" no matter what day you tune in, its the same ole chit.Man, I can tell it's been a while since I've posted here. I kept trying to "like' certain posts.
Bottom line is this: The approach everyone, including myself, hoped Hogan would take (i.e. instructing MSP to allow self defense as G&S without the current arbitrary supporting paperwork) got shot down. He can't arbitrarily change the law itself, so that leaves shuffling up the handgun permit board, which he's working on, and fixing some issues with MSP interpretation of COMAR, which he is also working on with placement of new MSP leadership. I realize that both of these changes are temporary ones that can be undone, but once we get a larger number of carry permits with simple self-defense (i.e. no supporting paperwork, just exercising Second Amendment rights), we have a much stronger standing in court if/when future governors come along and undo them.
We had a long shot at a quick solution. It didn't work out. That doesn't mean the game is over.
And given his performance to date, if it keeps on this trajectory I'd say his odds of winning a second term are very good.
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- Dec 22, 2009
- 4,759
Doesn't there have to be at least one before you start counting a large number.....
frogman68
товарищ плачевная
- Apr 7, 2013
- 8,774
Man, I can tell it's been a while since I've posted here. I kept trying to "like' certain posts.
Bottom line is this: The approach everyone, including myself, hoped Hogan would take (i.e. instructing MSP to allow self defense as G&S without the current arbitrary supporting paperwork) got shot down. He can't arbitrarily change the law itself, so that leaves shuffling up the handgun permit board, which he's working on, and fixing some issues with MSP interpretation of COMAR, which he is also working on with placement of new MSP leadership. I realize that both of these changes are temporary ones that can be undone, but once we get a larger number of carry permits with simple self-defense (i.e. no supporting paperwork, just exercising Second Amendment rights), we have a much stronger standing in court if/when future governors come along and undo them.
We had a long shot at a quick solution. It didn't work out. That doesn't mean the game is over.
And given his performance to date, if it keeps on this trajectory I'd say his odds of winning a second term are very good.
Calling BS . law is on his side if the MSP (still think the AG opinion is BS too) or Hogan himself said SD is G&S . Nothing in the current law prohibits it. He just turned tail and ran . At least with Brown we knew he would screw us every chance he got. Hogan is like a snake oil salesman , acts like your friend even gives you a few crumbs than stabs you in the back.
He is 1 and done.
An AG opinion is not only not a law, it has no bearing on a directive Hogan might choose to issue to an appointee in the executive branch as I read the law. It's only "shot down" if Hogan agrees with the opinion. He's not bound by it. The MSP superintendent probably has to abide by it until he's told differently IMO.
But IANAL
But IANAL
Hopalong
Man of Many Nicknames
This is precisely why I took a little MDS break.
Do you know what we call officials in the executive branch who ignore the finding of their attorneys general and do what they please because they find those rulings to be BS?
Dictators.
Larry Hogan is a Republican Governor working in a heavily Democratic state. Very little of what he does is easy. If he really weren't interested in helping gun owners, why is he stacking the handgun review board with pro-gun members? If he was, as you say, a "snake oil salesman", would he be putting pro-gun people into places of leadership at the MSP?
Patience. I know we'd like to have change overnight, but politics rarely works that way. Not to mention, he has an entire state to run.
redeemed.man
Ultimate Member
I am pretty certain the MSP Superintendent is not bound by an AG opinion which amounts to simple legal advice. That being said if things really are happening behind the scenes perhaps patience is in order.
After hearing Tim's informal review recording I feel like we are all banging our heads against the wall. The stupid was strong on that recording. Those MSP guys seemed absolutely brainwashed and so stuck in their wrong ways that it would take an act of God to get them to wake up. Oath to the COTUS? Huh? What's that? We took an oath to MOM and disarming citizens.
Brooklyn
I stand with John Locke.
What it does however is give. The press and the MGA a free shot at the governor..even before any decision is made..
It effectively shifts the burden of proof from presumably lawful to pursumably unlawful and in such a way the the courts, who's opinion is binding, is likely to favor the AG.
If you belive you have a power...use it. Once you ask you are conceeding that the matter is unclear..
This is one if the stupidest moves I have ever seen.. that it was done against the advice of others suggest it was willfully stupid.
Well IIRC the question was posed by a legislator, not Hogan. I don't know if that really matters in the larger scheme of things however.
What was done was akin to asking the ATF about "Can I put a SIG Brace on my shotgun?"
i agree the answer was the problem, not the person who posed it.
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