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Old May 15th, 2018, 03:14 PM #11
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Just because you CAN OC doesn't mean you SHOULD. Use common sense.

And as far as putting your weapon on the dash if pulled over, I don't advise that; it can be misinterpreted as hostile too easily. Again, use common sense.
eh, i don't get why we get all upset over open carriers. to each their own, and it doesn't hurt to see folks exercising their rights. most folks don't even notice and at least some of those that do just think you're LEO.

as to removing or touching or anything else like that, once you see lights in your mirror, just pull over and put your hands on the wheel. cops see you moving and digging around and will naturally get tense. if they ask for i.d. etc, just tell them where it is (ie glovebox) and ask if you can reach for it before your hands come off the wheel. and if you have a gun in console or glovebox of course let them know that and ask how to handle that before you go reaching in there.

good luck and have fun!
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Old May 15th, 2018, 03:21 PM #12
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Opps , my bad on the NF . The fast turnaround NH would still take care of the issue .

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A handfull of states require the pistol on dashboard thing , but I've always shook my head , because it is so stupid , and counter productive to its presumed intentions .

Don't do it unless it is explicitly required by law .
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I have 8 CCW permits and have never heard of this.

Can you elaborate?
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Old May 15th, 2018, 03:29 PM #14
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Has your resarch been recent VA negated PA permits
No , PA negated VA permits effective tomorrow. VA still honors all other state permits
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My thoughts on OC are nuanced, and occasionally get me looks from both sides .

Most of the "advantages" of OC aren't really . The best bang for the buck for PR value in hostile areas are properly organized group activities .

In any given situation the " tactical advantage " is almost always starting concealed .

All that said ; almost all the time , the disadvantages are small enough for OC to be viable, and certainly OC is far preferable to unarmed .

Even greater situational awareness . At least some sort of retention. Discression in your activities/ behaviour


Ironically size of guns and mode of carry that generally would overlap with CC . ( Unless you actually are hunting in the woods, or attending a tactical operator convention .

Discretly done OC will be totally unnoticed by 99% of people 99% of the time .
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When Ohio first had CCW , they required the dashboard thing for CC'ers . That was changed within a year or two.

I'll have to cruise thru Handgunlaw ( dot) us , but last time I browsed such things , a few States out West still had the dashboard thing for otherwise OC w/o Permit .

The only thing I can theorize for otherwise gun friendly states , is a misguided thought by some some legislators that the dashboard thing for pistols is parity for rifles and shotguns in a gun rack . But in environments where that state and adjacent states are Shall Issue , the practice would rarely occur in real life .
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I know WI and NC require the firearm to be in plain sight when OC in a car but that’s it
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Thanks for the tip about NH. It gives me all the states that I currently need. So easy...just fill out a page and send 100 bucks. I'll let you guys know how quickly it comes back. Sent on 5/15.
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eh, i don't get why we get all upset over open carriers. to each their own, and it doesn't hurt to see folks exercising their rights. most folks don't even notice and at least some of those that do just think you're LEO...
Nobody is getting upset. Just pointing out that you're perfectly free to walk across the Beltway at night, but don't be surprised if you get hit. There are many loons that will call the cops on someone carrying an umbrella because they think GUNZ ARE BAD.

I personally won't open carry. I'd rather avoid having a conversation with LE because some delusional menstruating teen called the cops on me.

Your choice entirely.
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Just to say I have OC’d in many states and while occasionally getting a stare, I have never had the cops called on me. Most states that allow OC are culturally different than states that don’t allow it. I have OC’d in Old Town Alexandria and not even had a conversation about it.

This is just my experience
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