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    j_h_smith

    Ultimate Member
    Jul 28, 2007
    28,516
    I sent pics and video to VCDL President Phil Van Cleave.

    Not surprisingly, didn't hear back.

    In all honesty, this is our fight, not anyone else's.

    No big deal.

    But we are getting big time exposure

    Nothing from PAFOA either. I was a little surprised. But then again, maybe not.
     

    gmharle

    Active Member
    MDS Supporter
    Dec 29, 2015
    824
    Millers, MD
    I'm sorry that I have been so slow to catch up today with all of my favorite people here--people who don't walk away when I am in handcuffs, people who sit by that triple-locked door until I am let go, people who want to know if I'm all right, if I am in pain, if I need something, if I need a hug, or a beer, or both. I love you guys.

    And I love you too, Mrs.Rab1515 and all you other great gals who are piling in on this quest to do something greater than ourselves.

    We have a Monday coming up that is calling all of us, pulling at us, hovering over us and tugging at us to gather on some Bricks where no one should be on a chain like a dog because the heart wants freedom, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.

    We have a Monday coming up like no other Monday. Are you in? I know you must be in, because last Monday my head was bowed and I only saw my shoes. Next Monday, my head will be up.... and I need to see you.

    Are you in? My heart says you are, but do you know it yet?

    I'm in. This incident is going to have the opposite effect to what they thought. This will not quell the group but galvanize us against those that would try to stifle our rights. It is time to take a stand!
     

    mvee

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    Dec 13, 2007
    2,487
    Crofton
    Peaceful protest. The bedrock of democracy. Apparently not in MD.

    Infringement in one right...not so good. Indeed unacceptable.

    Infringement on multiple rights...abject tyranny.

    Think about the mentality of those who would infringe on basic human rights.

    Now think about infringement wherein "they" decide to: infringe based on some "new" set of rules/circumstances AND "they" decide to infringe against 2A folks exercising their 1A rights in support of their 2A rights.

    Now ask yourself, did they do this to BLM? Arguably, BLM behaved outside several laws during their demonstrations. Wonder why "they" think it's ok to infringe on our 1A rights in a different way than "they" infringe on other groups 1A rights?

    As to "their" response after the fact, they double down on stupid and illegal by trumping even more charges.

    Is there a limit to "their" willingness to trample civil rights? Are a group of mostly middle aged white taxpaying citizens less protected legally? Constitutionally?? Is this not prima facie evidence of governmental tyranny? Hell, this borders on reverse racism if you ask me.

    Looks like there's at least three sets of rules...rules for the politically/financially connected, rules for the liberal social unrest protesters and rules for tax paying, law abiding citizens.

    Why do we have rules? Why do we have laws? Why don't we apply laws consistently? Who gets to decide who is afforded protection for this basic human/democratic right and who is not?

    The first amendment is as clear as the rest of them. Indeed it has been tested in our legal system perhaps more than any other. Why does the People's Republic of Maryland think they have the egregious prerogative to stifle people's voices? That's not governance, that's tyranny...plain and simple.

    Yes. When BLM came to town the police blocked traffic for then and provided escort. I believe there is a picture of the head of the Capitol police marching down the middle of Main Street with them. I am willing to bet that they did not have a permit to block traffics but they did.
    This suggests that they arressted the Patriot Picket to restrict their speech based on the content of that speech. I really believe the ACLU should be called to task here.

    One thing about the Patriot Picket is that they know what the laws are and what their rights are. On many occasions I have seen police attempt to intimidate Rack&roll only to let up once more knowledgeable police supervisors realized that as long they were on public property and not blocking the sidewalk no laws were being broken.

    The Patriot Picket knows to not to block the sidewalk. They are very aware of this. This suggests that the reason for the arrest they cane up with today is bull$hit.
     

    teratos

    My hair is amazing
    MDS Supporter
    Patriot Picket
    Jan 22, 2009
    59,775
    Bel Air
    While I've generally been a Hogan supporter, I have to wonder perhaps if he might have been ok with what happened. With the upcoming re-election bid, he needs a smooth legislative session. I could see how he might not want people with signs out front of the state house either. I hope Im wrong though. It's shameful that he won't speak up on the matter regardless.

    I don't blame Hogan. Hopefully what he is doing is getting all the facts. I like to think that's the case, but time will tell.

    Then we will finally meet in person Doc :thumbsup:

    :thumbsup: It's about time!
     

    Norton

    NRA Endowment Member, Rifleman
    Staff member
    Admin
    Moderator
    May 22, 2005
    122,853
    We're getting enough attention on the FB page that we warrant a troll. Glad we're getting under someone's skin. :lol2:

    Wonder which former member it is.
     

    EL1227

    R.I.P.
    Patriot Picket
    Nov 14, 2010
    20,274
    NO ... and lets leave it at that !!!

    While I've generally been a Hogan supporter, I have to wonder perhaps if he might have been ok with what happened. With the upcoming re-election bid, he needs a smooth legislative session. I could see how he might not want people with signs out front of the state house either. I hope Im wrong though. It's shameful that he won't speak up on the matter regardless.

    Can't divulge sources and methods, but we don't want to create 'bad press *' for Hogan unless you want Madaleno for Governor.

    * - Something that the DemocRATs and their media sycophants will feed as red meat to energize their leftist base.
     

    Allen65

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    Jun 29, 2013
    7,063
    Anne Arundel County
    I don't blame Hogan. Hopefully what he is doing is getting all the facts. I like to think that's the case, but time will tell.

    That's probably what some of the other major pro2A groups are doing, too. We should be holding off on criticism of them for any perceived "silence" until more details are known, especially about what may have gone on behind the scenes in the Capital. I have a good feeling that shortly there's going to be nationwide, vocal, backing of PP's 1A rights.

    This sort of unconscionable police action impacts free speech rights of all Americans, regardless of political leanings.
     

    EL1227

    R.I.P.
    Patriot Picket
    Nov 14, 2010
    20,274
    Yes. When BLM came to town the police blocked traffic for then and provided escort. I believe there is a picture of the head of the Capitol police marching down the middle of Main Street with them. I am willing to bet that they did not have a permit to block traffics but they did.
    This suggests that they arressted the Patriot Picket to restrict their speech based on the content of that speech. I really believe the ACLU should be called to task here.

    One thing about the Patriot Picket is that they know what the laws are and what their rights are. On many occasions I have seen police attempt to intimidate Rack&roll only to let up once more knowledgeable police supervisors realized that as long they were on public property and not blocking the sidewalk no laws were being broken.

    The Patriot Picket knows to not to block the sidewalk. They are very aware of this. This suggests that the reason for the arrest they cane up with today is bull$hit.

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    Boondock Saint

    Ultimate Member
    Dec 11, 2008
    24,367
    White Marsh
    Chief Wilson Lies, Liberty Dies.

    Liberty on Life Support, PP is the Cure

    Freedom/Liberty > Politics/Corruption

    2A Protects 1A

    1A Under Attack, PP Has Your Back

    Chief Wilson Has No Shame, MGA is to Blame
     

    clandestine

    AR-15 Savant
    Oct 13, 2008
    37,031
    Elkton, MD
    Just as an FYI - nearly all of the people showing up as guests viewing this page at 0715 this morning were coming in from Maryland and NoVA.

    This thread is getting a LOT of visibility right now.

    Thank you for keeping an eye out and everything else you do to Grease the gears of this machine Norton.
     

    ELEMENT94

    Wild eyed pistol waver.
    Sep 23, 2007
    487
    Whats the difference between this and demonstrating on the sidewalk in front of the White House where it has been deemed illegal? They can just use the "safety" arguement wherever needed to curtail free speech.
     

    teratos

    My hair is amazing
    MDS Supporter
    Patriot Picket
    Jan 22, 2009
    59,775
    Bel Air
    Whats the difference between this and demonstrating on the sidewalk in front of the White House where it has been deemed illegal? They can just use the "safety" arguement wherever needed to curtail free speech.

    Yep.

    "Gun safety" = trampling rights
    "traffic safety" = trample rights.

    Wonder what else they will try to do to keep up safe?
     

    Allen65

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    Jun 29, 2013
    7,063
    Anne Arundel County
    Whats the difference between this and demonstrating on the sidewalk in front of the White House where it has been deemed illegal? They can just use the "safety" arguement wherever needed to curtail free speech.

    Big difference if enforcement is selective based on content of the message being presented. Nobody of any political persuasion is allowed to protest within the security zone around the White House.
     

    MigraineMan

    Ultimate Member
    Jun 9, 2011
    19,109
    Frederick County
    Per Stoveman, the Chief said that the State's Attorney will not receive any resistance from the police department if the State's Attorney decides to drop the charges. That speaks volumes.

    I really find it odd that the MCP Chief is involved in this. Or is there so little crime in Annapolis that he personally deals with every jaywalking and public-urination citation issued?

    (yeah, my gut says Colonel Wilson is just Mike Miller's errand boy ...)
     

    FGT1958

    Active Member
    Big difference if enforcement is selective based on content of the message being presented. Nobody of any political persuasion is allowed to protest within the security zone around the White House.

    Correct, which is why they protest in the park across the street from the White House. Remember the huge outcry when the police took down the signs and tent of the homeless person protesting?
     
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