Joe Biden's Plan to End Gun Violence

davsco said:

hopefully everyone learned from virginia what happens when we don't get out and vote. there is no doubt that when dems are in control, they will go after our firearms.

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Absolutely true. NO ONE can sit at home and laugh at Biden and think "This is the best they can do, Trump will win in a landslide." The Democrats have done a really good idea of portraying the "idea of Biden" vs the reality of Biden.

And let's hope Trump kick it up a notch too.

Don't the dems support the right to suicide? But you can't use a gun to do it...

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rascal said:

How does that help you march half a billion a year in C3 charity and c4 hidden donor non-profit into US politics a cycle like the gun control groups do?
Look at gun control advocacy like a gigantic money laundry for Democrat party and it makes perfect sense. As does it if you look at the issue as a distraction for individual responsibly for decision to commit violent crime, as you point out.

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Good points. I never thought of their cause as money laundering and vote pandering. It probably is just that.

If they cared about firearm deaths they would walk away from "assault weapons" and focus entirely on innercity/gang use of handguns.

What a maroon....except, that's exactly the kind of shit the next dem president will do to us....

Best gun control plan I can think of related to Joe Biden is don't vote for him.

Sounds like Crazy Joe is crazy enough to start a civil war. I certainly hope that's not the case though.

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BlueHeeler said:

Good points. I never thought of their cause as money laundering and vote pandering. It probably is just that.

If they cared about firearm deaths they would walk away from "assault weapons" and focus entirely on innercity/gang use of handguns.

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Exactly. Although rather than use term "gang" since the other side has data that strictly defines gang, and lowers their homicide rate ) use the term prior or career criminal, since the solid multi-jurisdictional data is that a range of 85% to 90% of homicide is committed by prior criminals and 75% to 80% is committed by persons with ten or more arrests. I like to call those career criminals, "super predators" because Hillary used the term in the 1990s and then had to stop using it when she became a national candidate since it gives the PC brigade a heart attack.

the fact that gun control has gone from about 80-20 party aligned to 100% aligned is why the money laundering aspect and benefit will increase, and why in turn no matter what they get they will want more.

Since it is party aligned, buying kids from NJ bus tickets to March for Our Lives, something done as c3 charitable donations meaning donor gets 50% of their donation back in tax savings (from you and I). Even the popular music talent/celebrity is getting a giant charitable "donation" credit for public safety charity work while fist bumping pelosi.

Thus they function as defacto partisan activities and campaign rallies, since they are arguing exactly the Democrats platform, and opposite to GOP positions, effectively both lobbying and garnering electoral campaign effect, end running the spirit of both IRS lobbying, and FEC campaign finance, regs.

c4 is even crazier. They are supposed to be limited in lobbying as well since their donors sources, while not getting a deduction, can be 100% opaque. Much was made of NRA getting a (in DC terms tiny) donation from some Russian sourced group. We have no idea as to whether gun control lobby is getting individual or corporate funding with ultimate overseas source. If a major Chinese company has any physical presence here they can give to c4 and it not be disclosed.

The pandemic has shown people why we need guns for protection and the hoops people have had to jump thru was a shock to some. This is a good thing for the 2A and its support has most likely had a spike in numbers. The hard sell we have is the reason for the AR type rifles. The possibility of having to defend ourselves from a tyranny is far fetched idea to many.

gprimr1 said:

Absolutely true. NO ONE can sit at home and laugh at Biden and think "This is the best they can do, Trump will win in a landslide." The Democrats have done a really good idea of portraying the "idea of Biden" vs the reality of Biden.
And let's hope Trump kick it up a notch too.

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Trump was underestimated by a) his GOP primary rivals Also b) profoundly underestimated by the DNC, c) Hillary and d) the mainstream press that is 100% sensationalist doay, and that has position alignments with the Democrats at north of a 90% ratio-- and is fully incensed that the population did not listen to their betters in the press.

I do not think they will underestimate him again. this time there is an inversion and it is core GOP voters that in my view are underestimating the election problems Trump has.

As far as gun owners I think they are today also serious underestimating the risks to the Second Amendment of even a single Biden term. We are about six months form it being impossible for Trump to replace RGB or Breyer, meaning we have exhausted 7/8 of the opportunity and chances diminish each day.

Trump has only been able to replace two retiring GOP SCOTUS appointments.
I just ran an actuary on Thomas, and while changes are he will make it through one Biden term, there is a significant chances he won't. In my view that would trigger may/shall going to the court, may issue becoming law, and a dozen current shall regimes now in Blue states being converted to may issue. We say Heller is "law of the land" but there nothing stopping a full attack on that and overturning it completely so Biden get to replace any one of the five GOP appointed justices. That is even before we get to the probme of a Biden term meaning 12 years of DEm appointees to the entire federal bench (700 slots) or a 3:1 advantage in appointing years in the 16 years preceding 2025.

The current polling spread on heads up match shows biden winning both popular and electoral by wider margins than the error rate of polls, and yes, most by more than the large error in the last election.

His style is problematic for the covid issue that will dominate the pre-elections as well, an wil damage him. His actual policy decisions on Covid are unassailable. The US is doing better, less deaths per capita for example than the EU and there is the stone cold fact that most decisions he made were roundly criticized -- and then followed with the exact same decisions by leaders of democracies around the world. Also there were complaints about his recommending weighing opening economy up, he was attacked, and yet a dozen major state Democrat governors have agreed with him on that.

Biden's strategy is to say nothing, since not a single person or leader saying anything about it has proven correct on all aspects.

The Covid event is a massive boon to Biden since it hides him, and we all know he has serious cognitive problems,clearly earl stage Alzheimers. It is absolutely an inversion of practice for campaign staff to proactively work to limit their candidate's direct press exposure, but that is exactly what Biden's people are doing.

Trump's main hope will be to turn it around in the debates, as this will put Biden's mental health issues on display.

I agree with you 110% percent that the GOP and Republicans are underestimating 2020. I've been saying that since 2017 about. Too many people seem to act like Trump is going to curb stomp Biden, or they are still thinking the election is against Clinton, or they are failing to understand that unlike 2016, Trump now has 4 years of record instead of being a newcomer. I can only hope that the 2019 Virginia elections proved the wakeup call that Trump may be resoundingly popular amoung his base, but it's not translating into landslide Republican victories and Democrats are so discouraged that they can just stay home.

I hope Trump doesn't wait until the debates, because honestly, I think Biden and the DNC are going to vet the VP candidate as if they were vetting the President. It honestly wouldn't surprise me if there are already discussions about Biden winning the election and resigning from office shortly after. Another possibility I could see, since Biden has MeToo issues, him announcing a female VP, and then announcing in light of the accusations against him, once elected, he will resign the Presidency. I'm sure some people will be upset that the first woman president isn't elected on her own, but since the Democratic party cares more about things like race and gender than actual character, I doubt this becomes a major issue.

I would love to see Trump adapt his tone. Him fighting with the press was funny when times were good, but now people want to see a leader. They are still going to be assholes, but maybe try a different strategy and not feed them? Not egg them on? If you know they have a tendency to misquote you, don't give the stuff to misquote you. I'd also like to see a switch to a format where he just gives a few overall remarks of encouragement to the country and then introduces the speakers. I believe one of the traits of being a good leader is letting your people's strengths shine.

And maybe start running some ads to highlight what he has done, or what Democrats have stopped him from doing.

And even though I hate socialists, hate communism, and don't want to see a USSA, I'm sure someone will get upset for me being critical of Trump.

It's too early to panic.

It's too early to start the campaign for term 2.

It's time to carry on, leading the nation through one of the roughest patches it's faced in quite some time. This is not a "war on terror" where a couple thousand people are killed by zealots; it's a lot closer to an active threat of nuclear annihilation, in terms of what it might do to the nation. Trump has to deal with that, effectively, and communicate his success clearly.

He can dispose of Biden pretty easily; there's no there there. There's no doubt that Trump willl effectively demonstrate that Biden is unfit for the job, and he will not neglect to mention that the VP is the potential POTUS that is being offered for sale to the voters. Given that Biden was the best they could come up with for the main event, there isn't much depth on the bench.

The economy would really like to take off. Timing is crucial, and dependent on the virus. If T can get people back to work by summer, he'll sweep into office easily. Steps taken by governors and Dems in Congress that go against Trump's actions to stimulate recovery will stick out like hookers in church, and he will no doubt point them out.

When this is over, I’d like to see a drive to retire the national debt and build our manufacturing as a defense priority. Maybe people now see how vulnerable we are.


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If Biden wins and the Democrats get 50 Senators Biden's gun ban list will become law.

Then Senate Majority Leader and gun hater Chuck Schumer will end the Senate filibuster.

Democrats will pass a sweeping, once in a lifetime anti gun tsunami.

Think Virginia nationwide.

Keeping Joe Biden out of the White House is critical but the GOP keeping the Senate is probably more crucial.

Tebonski said:

If Biden wins and the Democrats get 50 Senators Biden's gun ban list will become law.

Then Senate Majority Leader and gun hater Chuck Schumer will end the Senate filibuster.

Democrats will pass a sweeping, once in a lifetime anti gun tsunami.

Think Virginia nationwide.

Keeping Joe Biden out of the White House is critical but the GOP keeping the Senate is probably more crucial.

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One would hope the 3% will rise up, the Liberty Tree will get watered, etc. That would be the time. But, I suspect we will go out with a whimper after a mass turn in. Not everyone but enough (most) to signal resistance is futile (to the anti gun Borg).

shootin the breeze said:

One would hope the 3% will rise up, the Liberty Tree will get watered, etc. That would be the time. But, I suspect we will go out with a whimper after a mass turn in. Not everyone but enough (most) to signal resistance is futile (to the anti gun Borg).

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I will turn in 6 stripped registered lower receivers without delay.

Hopefully the Supreme Court would invalidate all the unconstitutional laws Democrats would pass. This explains why Democrats plan adding two to four additional Supreme court justices to gain political advantage. And they will do it too.

There’s a helluva lot of hills and woods this way. Proverbial needle in haystack.


Gonna be a lot less fun and lots less productive if there’s open season on the folks looking....

Tebonski said:

Keeping Joe Biden out of the White House is critical but the GOP keeping the Senate is probably more crucial.

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Interesting; so the senate is more important than the white house? Or is it more important to concentrate on the senate since the white seems to be our strong suite right now?

calicojack said:

Interesting; so the senate is more important than the white house? Or is it more important to concentrate on the senate since the white seems to be our strong suite right now?

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It goes without saying (or should, anyway) that we need both.

The re-aligning of the federal judiciary with constitutional principles requires both nomination and affirmation of POTUS appointments. In the long term, that's the only action that will inhibit the malignancy infecting the federal and many state governments.

Successful prosecutions of corrupt high officials is also necessary; it will remove bad actors, and serve to dissuade those who follow them into office from ignoring the rule of law.

Thanks for the summary.

Occam said:

For those that don't want to reward Biden with a click on his web site, here's my distilled-down summary of his agenda items in this area:

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